[avahi] Avahi scope?

[Trent Lloyd]

On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:56:09AM -0500, Lee Cullens wrote:
> Trent Lloyd wrote:
> >On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 09:55:57PM -0500, Lee Cullens wrote:
> >  
> >>Trent Lloyd wrote:
> >>    
> >>>On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 05:07:31PM -0500, Lee Cullens wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>      
> >>>>Lee Cullens wrote:
> >>>>   
> >>>>        
> >>>>>Avahi scope?
> >>>>>...................................................................
> >>>>>P4 with Debian Etch (testing), kernel 2.6.12-1-686 (2.6.12-10), Gnome 
> >>>>>desktop
> >>>>>PMac G5 running OS X Tiger (10.4.3)
> >>>>>New to Linux and putting up a no doze Linux & Mac LAN
> >>>>>...................................................................
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I've installed netatalk on my Linux box, and now can access and move 
> >>>>>files into and out of a shared directory on the Linux box from my Mac. 
> >>>>>In order to discover the Mac and a printer on the Mac from the Linux 
> >>>>>box, I found instructions that included installing mdnsresponder and 
> >>>>>howl-tools on the Linux box. 
> >>>>>The Debian packages included mdnsresponder but not howl-tools which I 
> >>>>>understand isn't being maintained anymore.  As I'm sure you already 
> >>>>>know, I instead found Avahi on Debian and that's not the 0.6.3 
> >>>>>version.  So in reading through the material for Avahi I see an item 
> >>>>>in the FAQ about not running multiple mDNS responders.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I'm not exactly sure, but it seems to me that if I use Avahi I should 
> >>>>>not also use mdnsresponder - i.e. that Avahi replaces the combination 
> >>>>>of mdnsresponder and howl-tools.  Is this layman interpretation 
> >>>>>correct? If so, I guess my next step is to figure out just what I need 
> >>>>>of Avahi and try to build and install the latest 0.6.3 version, rather 
> >>>>>than the Debian 0.6.1 version that might have a problem?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thank you,
> >>>>>Lee C
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>          
> >>>>Never mind.  I found where Avahi conflicts with mdnsresponder.  The 
> >>>>problem is that if I were to remove mdnsresponder and install Avahi 
> >>>>then I would need dbus rather than dbus1  which would in turn wipe out 
> >>>>at least the majority of my testing version Gnome desktop.  It may be 
> >>>>that such could be done with the unstable Gnome desktop, but I don't 
> >>>>want move whole-hog to unstable because that would undoubtedly lead to 
> >>>>more issues.  Yet another catch-22 :-( 
> >>>>   
> >>>>        
> >>>That has nothing to do with mdnsresponder.
> >>>
> >>>Avahi requires dbus 0.3 or above, debian probably still has 0.2 in
> >>>testing and so you cannot install it without upgrading it, which can
> >>>only be done in i think unstable, maybe even experimental.
> >>>
> >>>The conflicts with mdnsresponder are due to the need to listen on the
> >>>same port and that sort of thing.  Avahi can replace both mdnsresponder
> >>>and howl-utils (well, i dont know exactly of the utils in howl-utils,
> >>>but we have most usefull things, publish-service, etc) You can even make
> >>>use of the Bonjour or Howl API using programs using our compatability
> >>>layer.
> >>>
> >>>Trent
> >>> 
> >>>      
> >>Guess I didn't word it very well.   I meant that "if I were to install 
> >>Avahi as an alternative to mdnsresponder" I hit the dbus version issue 
> >>and don't want to go whole-hog unstable (even if that is enough).  
> >>Testing (Etch) is enough exposure for me, but I'll pull the occasional 
> >>package from unstable if I think I really need it and there aren't too 
> >>many consequences :-)  
> >>
> >>I'm back to my research trying to find a way to "discover" my Mac and a 
> >>printer on my Mac from my Debian Etch box.  The Debian box has netatalk 
> >>installed and from my Mac I can see it and share files.
> >>
> >>I'm happy to see Avahi jumping into the void and look forward to it 
> >>settling down in at least testing.   There is a Avahi-client package in 
> >>Debian testing, but I can't seem to figure out how to use it to discover 
> >>my Mac :-(
> >>    
> >
> >Can you tlel me what version the DBUS package is?
> >It's quite possible avahi will work fine just the package from unstable
> >wont.
> >
> >as for avahi, you could install avahi-daemon and avahi-utils and run
> >avahi-discover.
> >
> >Trent
> >
> >  
> >>Thanks for the reply,
> >>Lee C
> >>
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> >
> >  
> Keeping in mind that I have just looked at the Debian packages - not at 
> compiling the latest from source if newer.
> 
> Avahi-daemon (0.6.3-3 unstable) requires dbus >= 0.6.0 and dbus 0.60-5 
> is in unstable.  However, much of Gnome (1:2.10.2.5 testing) with Etch 
> requires dbus-1 (0.23.4-8 testing) - i.e. selecting dbus will remove 
> most of Gnome testing.  I assume that also selecting Gnome unstable 
> would bring it back, but I don't want to get that far into unstable 
> :-)   I've got enough issues with the exposure I have and really want to 
> get back to my ObjC development projects.

OK so testing still has 0.23, thats unfortunate as we do not support
that.

Sorry!

Cheers,
Trent

> 
> Thanks,
> Lee C
> 
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Trent Lloyd <lathiat at bur.st>
Bur.st Networking Inc.