I feel that I am in the target of people : "just a little code that they knew they could write, but never got around to doing it." For our defense, the framework stack to reach real ocal code is VERY discouraging. I remember how motivated I was to contribute Ocal until I checkout the code and suddenly became shameful that I was not able to understand a single line of code in this framework unless spending days on it. That's where I join ckler when he says that such a site can be written in a day or so but FROM SCRATCH. But a I am not a talentuous programmer mysefl and I know this is again to defend myself for doing nothing about ocal todo list... I practice SDD (Shame Driven Developpement) which leads to self-frustration and nothing concrete ! <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid #ff0000; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px">> Message du 06/02/08 15:50 > De : "John Olsen" > A : clipart@lists.freedesktop.org > Copie à : > Objet : [Clipart] leechers and pirates > > regarding various salvos being fired over clker.com etal.: > > Am I going to the wrong clker.com? The one I visit clearly has the > author as one of the tags and you can sort by that - so that molomen > and Liftarn submissions can be seen together. i see a few of my > submissions are popular this week. When I click on one and go to it's > page right under the site title it says "Johnny Automatic greedy man" > > I don't want to get into a name calling debate, but it seems to me > that "leechers and pirates" have one admirable advantage over our > little group - they talk a lot less and work a lot more. I'm gonna > judge this site by results. > > How refreshing to go to a site focused on visual art - clipart and see > - OMG - a page full of pictures of clipart! > > People go to OCAL looking for clipart. God help them trying to find > it. The most likely thing they'll see is a blog feed from someone > else's blog and words - lots of words. In fact for something that is > dedicated to visual art, it profoundly misunderstands the power of > design and visuals. > > As someone who has contributed a file or two here, I am happy to have > them spread around. The important part is that the clipart is > available. Much of the art I upload is repurposed from public domain > old books. I see that as liberating it to be repurposed and used by > more people than ever would if it just sat lost in a book. Was that > the intent of the original illustrator? Almost certainly not. But it > is now in the PD and is there for people to use and reinvent. > > Now I'm done talking - I have uploading and librarian work to do. I > am in the middle of uploading about 500 files from the old library by > hand because I have just given up on all the people that have come and > gone here spouting off how easy something would be to do with just a > little code that they knew they could write, but never got around to > doing it. > > But I can't fix bugs or add site features by brute force. > > A car is faster than walking, but if I start walking and the car never > comes, who gets there first? > > John Olsen/Johnny Automatic > _______________________________________________ > clipart mailing list > clipart@lists.freedesktop.org > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart > > </blockquote> Créez votre adresse électronique <a target=_blank href=http://www.laposte.net>prénom.nom@laposte.net</a> 1 Go d'espace de stockage, anti-spam et anti-virus intégrés.