Hi all. I'm looking for understanding. I was browsing the OCAL site looking for something to do, and decided to look at some of the Requests. Having not been to the OCAL site much, I took awhile to read, watch and learn. I went to the wiki to see if there was more helpful information on fulfilling clipart requests, then to contact you guys, only to find that there is no more community portal on the wiki, IRC is dead, and this mailing list is the only real place to be able to contact someone. Hopefully there is life out there. :) So.. After browsing for awhile and trying to find some clipart for my own use (pictures for a job checklist), I figured out that more clipart is needed. Wanting more professional clipart available, liking your goals and being a designer of sorts, I thought "Ok, well, Draw I can." I went to the requests page(s) and tried to find something to do. Requests: <a href="http://openclipart.org/media/view/media/requests">http://openclipart.org/media/view/media/requests</a> Looking through these "requests" I found one or two that I can actually do. However, most seem to have images, or not enough description of what the person wants. For example <a href="http://openclipart.org/media/files/gabriela/11207">http://openclipart.org/media/files/gabriela/11207</a> is a request, but what do they want done to it? Perhaps I'm new and dont know how it works, but, is this an image that is already done? or is it a request of what they want? Why are there reviews on the request images if they are not yet fulfilled? What use is a comment on a REQUESTED image such as "Please submit an SVG file. You can convert the image using Inkscape or this site: <a href="http://vectormagic.staford.edu/"> vectormagic.staford.edu </a>. Thanks." First, I have some issues with this kind of reply. 1) The submitted image (as far as I can tell from the example I chose) is a jpg REQUEST for what they want. There is no point in asking general public people to submit the REQUESTS as svg, because that is what they are wanting as well - a vector svg. This kind of admin comment on a non-svg-image trying to fulfill the request would be ok; but not, I believe, on an example image of a request. 2) I researched Vector Magic and you have to pay to use it. When you sign up you get two free conversion credits. After that you have to pay for the service at $8/month. While it might seem like a good conversion engine, your admin is instructing authors and designers (or end users) to pay for something which I doubt many would be happy to do. A vector graphic designer...perhaps... might be willing to pay, but not Joe Blogs down the street. Whats my point? Good question. I'm confused about how to use the requests page-list. In some places it seems like a place to request an image. In others it looks like someone has done something already. Is there someone overseeing the requests list to ensure fulfilled ones are moved? How does the request page work? Why are there reviewers comments on many of the requested image examples? General Organization Thoughts: Is it possible to have a thumbnail of the image in the page list? Or a specific place for a gallery that has filters (so that the main pages are left as is)? Many clipart libaries use only "lists" of filenames or descriptions. When someone is looking for a picture, they know what they want. A gallery would speed up Joe Blog's search even more. With today's speeds of broadband (and technology trends of Critical Mass - user adoption) it wouldnt be too much to ask for a thumbnail gallery on a website providing images to a person. Activity: How much activity is going on on the wiki and Website? Am I trying to beat a dead horse (by joining up and creating clipart for public use), or is there actually work being done on these? Searching: When I search for "bell" or "hand" anything containing the searched for word appears in the list. This includes member names as well as any clipart (filenames or descriptions) submitted by authors (and/or/also containing the word). Is there a way to refine the results - e.g. "excluding/only" members, images, keywords, colours, OlderThan, etc. As I said I'm new to the site and am hoping to find some answers that will help with my confusion. Cheers Chovynz