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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:11:44 +1300<br>
From: chovynz chovynz <<a href="mailto:chovynz@gmail.com" target="_blank">chovynz@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: [Clipart] Requests: Are they a bit confusing? + General<br>
organization thoughts + Activity (is the site alive?) + Searching<br>
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</blockquote><div><br> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 chovynz chovynz wrote:<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Why are there reviews on the request images if<br>
they are not yet fulfilled? What use is a comment on a REQUESTED image such<br>
as "Please submit an SVG file. You can convert the image using Inkscape or<br>
this site: <a href="http://vectormagic.staford.edu" target="_blank">vectormagic.staford.edu</a> . Thanks."<br>
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First, I have some issues with this kind of reply. 1) The submitted image<br>
(as far as I can tell from the example I chose) is a jpg REQUEST for what<br>
they want. There is no point in asking general public people to submit the<br>
REQUESTS as svg, because that is what they are wanting as well - a vector<br>
svg. This kind of admin comment on a non-svg-image trying to fulfill the<br>
request would be ok; but not, I believe, on an example image of a request.</blockquote><div><br>There are two ways an image may become a request: either an author submits it as a request, or he submits non-SVG image as a clipart. Then any admin who notices such an image writes a review "Please submit an SVG file" and waits in hope that it was just a mistake ; ) After a couple of weeks (or months...) an admin moves such image to Requests by adding "request" tag (usually without deleting/editing the reviews). This is how it works now. There are some guidelines at <a href="http://openclipart.org/wiki/Moderation" target="_blank">http://openclipart.org/wiki/Moderation</a>.</div>
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<br>Interestingly, there's also a page <a href="http://openclipart.org/wiki/Image_requests" target="_blank">http://openclipart.org/wiki/Image_requests</a> at the wiki, which contains completely different set of requests, some of them from 2005... Some of them are surely completed (I can't believe we don't have, for example, " US National Flag" !!). But... do we really need two places for requests? </div>
</div></blockquote><div><br><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">Ok that's interesting. Yes I did spot that second one (from <a href="http://openclipart.org/wiki/Clip_Art_Requests">http://openclipart.org/wiki/Clip_Art_Requests</a>), but semi-ignored it because it says it's the old version. Want me to do some exploring and see if any are fulfilled? I can make a list of ones on the page that are still in-request (not fulfilled yet).</span><br>
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2) I researched Vector Magic and you have to pay to use it. When you sign up<br>
you get two free conversion credits. After that you have to pay for the<br>
service at $8/month. </blockquote><div><br>When I was recommending <a href="http://vectormagic.stanford.edu" target="_blank">vectormagic.stanford.edu</a> (now <a href="http://vectormagic.com" target="_blank">vectormagic.com</a>), it was still free... <br>
I guess it would be best to put some Inkscape vectorization tutorial on the wiki and give links there. I'll try to do it;</div></div></blockquote><div><br><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">Or vectorisation in general too. I haven't played around with Inkscape much but I presume the concepts and principles are the same as other programs. Use lines, and pen tool to create paths and strokes that can be changed on the fly.<br>
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Whats my point? Good question. I'm confused about how to use the requests<br>
page-list. In some places it seems like a place to request an image. In<br>
others it looks like someone has done something already. Is there someone<br>
overseeing the requests list to ensure fulfilled ones are moved? How does<br>
the request page work? </blockquote></div><br>Well, it would be logical if the author of the request could mark it as "completed". But it seems it doesn't work like this (or am I wrong?). "Completed_request" is one of the admin tags and only admin can add it. I don't know anything about "someone overseeing it"; I can look at the list and try to move the "fulfilled" ones...<br>
<br>I also see that there's no intuitive way to link an "answer" to the request. OK, when it is a new work from scratch, people usually mark it as a "remix" of the request, and when they feel some of the older cliparts may be used, they say so in comments/reviews. But it gets sooo messy :( For example, should I (as an admin) mark a green tree by PeterM <a href="http://openclipart.org/media/files/PeterM/80" target="_blank">http://openclipart.org/media/files/PeterM/80</a> as a "remix" of green tree requested by vochoman <a href="http://openclipart.org/media/files/vochoman/6924" target="_blank">http://openclipart.org/media/files/vochoman/6924</a>, or it just doesn't make sense?</blockquote>
<div><br><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">I have no idea about the completed_request admin side of things. I'll let someone else answer that.<br><br>Yes, Having an intuitive way of linking the answer to the request would be good. I also have a question as to why things are stored underneath people's names (seen in the breadcrumbs trail), but I guess it makes sense in a particular way and easy finding, or perhaps if you have a favorite artist. I dunno. It just seemed weird to me to lookup "Bread" and see "Home > People > Jon > bread". It seems to work ok, just not easy to remember, compared to lets say, "Home > Food > bread". </span><br>
<br><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">Well, I'm glad to be here thats for sure.</span><br><br><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">Cheers</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">Chovynz</span><br>
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