Ok then. :) Sorry if I over-reacted, or upset people. Now I'll just get on the job of making clipart :) <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Jon Phillips <<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Agree overall...also, DMCA safe harbor provisions give 36-72 hours to respond to a challenge against something in our system...that is for a counter-claim (aka, a response). Then, there is another window of response from the party making the claim...regardless, 36-72 hours to respond or take down something is the generally accepted length of time if we have a problem...fwiw. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmca" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmca</a> This is part of the innovation that allows for USA to have so many user-generated content sites, like youtube, etc Jon 2009/3/25 John Olsen <<a href="mailto:johnny_automatic@mac.com">johnny_automatic@mac.com</a>>: <div><div></div><div class="h5">> > On Mar 25, 2009, at 2:18 AM, <a href="mailto:clipart-request@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart-request@lists.freedesktop.org</a> wrote: > > From: chovynz <<a href="mailto:chovynz@gmail.com">chovynz@gmail.com</a>> > > I can't comment on Obama as I dont know US Govt rules on PD and presidential > > figures. > > > First, people's own images are not copyright issue ,but privacy issue. > Public figures do not have the same rights and thus images of them are > generally protected > > > > I'm not an expert on copyright, and I am not a lawyer, however I did study > > copyright in University on my Advanced Diploma in Design and Multimedia. > > About the other Darth Vader pictures, after reading Lucasfilms copyright > > statement I can tell you that unless they got permission to use him, then > > they probably are breaking copyright......I feel that maybe some of my > comments are or might be taken the wrong way, > > so I'll clarify that now. What I'm doing is being a "devil's advocate." I'm > > being hard-nosed about it because, especially in America, I've seen people > > get sued over the stupidest little thing. > > > I have never heard of a case of someone being sued straight out and I work > in a field that blatantly steals images and logos for their own purposes ( > action sports like surf and skate). The standard procedure is to send a > cease and desist letter requesting the immediate removal of an image. Even > the most rabid copyright protectors like Disney do this. Nicu's image is a > Nicu drawing inspired by the Star Wars world. No one would confuse it with > the actual Lucasfilm art. BTW, we have actual Lucas film images here in the > library - those images were specifically placed in the PD in the USA as > drawings for Star Wars patented toys. All images used to support a patent > claim in the US must be placed in the PD. > > That brings me to the point about "especially in America" and US Govt rules. > In the US ANYTHING produced by the government that isn't a security issue > is the property of the citizens of the US and is thus placed in the public > domain. So many of the images here were produced with our tax dollars and > we Americans can use them as we want. This is very different from countries > like Australia where the govt. specifically retains copyright on all of its > work. > > John Olsen > > > > </div></div>> _______________________________________________ > clipart mailing list > <a href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> > > -- Jon Phillips <a href="http://rejon.org/" target="_blank">http://rejon.org/</a> +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) +86 132-6817-8381 (china) Sent from: Beijing Beijing China. _______________________________________________ clipart mailing list <a href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> </blockquote></div> -- Cheers Chovynz