<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Oleg Koptev <<a href="mailto:koptev.oleg@gmail.com">koptev.oleg@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hello chovynz! Greatly impressed by your thoughts. You right in part of that big companies frequently use power of money to play unfairly. But.. martyrs?? who the hell might force you to eat hamburger in McDonalds only, or drink Coca-Cola instead of Pepsi (NB: I prefer pure cold water)? More and more people come to conception of open source in many spheres of life - software, music, art and so on. </blockquote><div> I would call what is happening to TPB as martyrdom. It pisses me off no end that big corporations think they can get away with stuff like that, (illegality and bullying other hardworking ISP's and little guys), because they have lots of money. It's enough to paralyze someone ... regular Joe-Hardworking-Blogs ... fear and intimidation tactics. But things happen when someone gets tired of being pushed around. Then when lots of little someones get tired of being pushed around, they join together to become a big ... irreversible, sustainable, self-healing justice machine. The world is changing. In some ways those big controling corporations are dead....but they just don't know it yet. The dead signals are taking awhile to get the their zombie brains. That's why I say I hope not too many other people get hurt (martyred), in the corporations death throws. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> For example - today earning money by selling Audio CD at incredible high prices is doomed decision. You mention before TPB (pirate bay) - this is one of legion of the torrent sites, where I can found very good rip of my likely group in lossless. But instead of that I prefer to buy CDs - with polygraphy, booklet and so on. On the other hand - often original CDs come in very small edition or/and in very high price (+delivery by post high too). So I forced to download that albums from torrents for example. </blockquote><div> I refuse to download pirated stuff, on my own principles. However, I've been thinking of using TBP as a delivery method for my own stuff. TBP itself is not illegal. I'm watching their case quite closely, as the outcome and precedents set there will effect the entire internet (more than it is already). If it becomes "illegal" to provide links to copyrightable material we might as well shut the Internet down. (Which they can't) *side issue* Just because EA makes things expensive and uses DRM, doesnt mean I need to download copys of their games (which I so want to do, because I like the gameplay usually.) But I will never trust them again, and will probably never willing and knowingly give them my money again. (This is based on a personal issue between me and EA which I dont need to go into here.) Get enough of us upset at EA, for example - depending on who's doing what - you can substitue RIAA, Sony, MPAA, "the Big Four", etcetc the list goes on,) and not buying their stuff and they may listen. Or not. ...In any case, I'm throwing my weight and mind behind the Free Software Foundation, and Open Source. I'm preaching about OCAL and good quality clip-art to people I come across who might be able to use it - churches, youthgroups, I'll be teaching my own kids how to find and use "free-as-in-speech" sources of art, I'm going into the Airforce soon where I'll be preaching there too. I'm thinking how I can use OGG and other things to achieve some commercial projects. The future is bright. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Also I don't want to pay to major labels inadecvate huge money. I want to support my beloved group directly. How could I do this? The only thing - by buying tickets on their concerts or by donation directly to them. That touch not only (and not much) mastodon-like groups, but firstly young bands with interesting material. Majors don't want art - they want money. And promotion by free release of their work (under CC for example) might give incredible push to marketing. For example last album of Radiohead was freely available from their site with proposal to donate as much as you can. They earned ~5 billions as far as I remember :) </blockquote><div> Amen! </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Similar situation with software. Look onto Canonical for example - I want to be such martyr as they are is hehe)) Open mind is future, and who are not understand it will be doomed. Sorry for scattered thoughts. Will be really interesting to hear thoughts of others, especially Jon Rejon :) 2009/4/7, chovynz <<a href="mailto:chovynz@gmail.com">chovynz@gmail.com</a>>: > *Offtopic Commentary: FSF/MS/Proprietary/FreeSpeech/various other community <div><div></div><div class="h5">> attempts.* > > I've been doing some massive amounts (literally hours of continuous link > clicking and reading) of research online today. I've been visiting sites > such as The Pirate Bay, Free Software Foundation, Microsoft, CNN, various > news and blog's, Open Source Initiative, Patent Offices, Copyright Lawyers > statements, trials and outcomes, MPAA, reading reading reading, .... > > It occurred to me just now that Microsoft and a number of other business are > the modern equivalents of Braveheart's England. Attempts at bullying, > coercion, and "because I said so" mentality. They even have power to "rape > and pillage our women and children" - the things that reproduce our values > and goals, and the offspring of the ideas... > > I only hope that not too many "Braveheart's" have to become martyrs before > the world is changed for good - finally. > > *thoughtfull mood* > -- > Cheers > Chovynz > </div></div>-- C уважением, Коптев Олег With respect, Koptev Oleg Jabber ID - <a href="mailto:koptevoleg@jabber.ru">koptevoleg@jabber.ru</a> WWW — <a href="http://ktulhuntu.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://ktulhuntu.blogspot.com</a> </blockquote></div> -- Cheers Chovynz