Thats an awesome structur! I always want to remove upload and download from the main navigation bar. Ok lets do it like that. Maybe shine bigger "not normal" buttons on the Browse Page in the sidebar. With links to Upload and Download Page I think Sets should still be a main navigation Point. I like the idea about Information and Help you have chovy. Struct every words you have for this Sites and send them to me. Michael <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:01 AM, chovynz <<a href="mailto:chovynz@gmail.com">chovynz@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Tobias, I've been thinking about what you said. A restructure would work. We could group them under general buttons: News Clipart Information Help News - no change Clipart - goes directly to browse, with submenus of: <ul><li>Sets</li><li>Upload</li><li>Downloads</li></ul>Information - goes directly to About, with submenus of: <ul><li>People</li><li>Get Involved </li><li>Forums (in the distant future) </li></ul>Help - the new help page I'm thinking of What do you all think about this? It sounds like you guys do want the help page on the Beta Website? Am I reading your responses correctly? Forums: I see forums as a possibilty in the future, however my focus is getting the Beta Version released. Since I'm not working directly on the website by coding and programming, I can't say when we'll be able to approach including Forums...but that idea is not forgotten. <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Tobias Jakobs <<a href="mailto:tobias.jakobs@googlemail.com" target="_blank">tobias.jakobs@googlemail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi! Yes, the idea is good. But I think we are getting to much buttons there. We alseady have 8 and usuly the usabitlity rukle is not to have more then 7 items in an menu. Perhaps the best idea is to restrucrure the compleat menu. Regards, Tobias <div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><div></div><div> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 02:17, chovynz <<a href="mailto:chovynz@gmail.com" target="_blank">chovynz@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > This is my proposed button or something like it. > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, chovynz <<a href="mailto:chovynz@gmail.com" target="_blank">chovynz@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >> >> RE: BETA OCAL Navigation and Help page suggestion. >> >> How would you guys feel if we changed the "Help Out" page title and >> navigation bar to "Volunteer Work". >> >> My reason for suggesting this is to be able to create a basic "Help" page >> - and Nav button - for people to read about how to do certain tasks or >> moving around the Beta site. Or we could put the basic "Help" things I have >> in mind on the "About" page. I am thinking of taking a whole heap of tips >> and hints from the old OCAL site, the Wiki, and with the new ways of doing >> things on the Beta, and putting them into an easy to read and understand >> format. >> >> My reason for doing THAT is because ever since I joined up to old OCAL it >> took awhile to find out how to do certain things. Mostly by trial and error >> and lots of lots of traveling the web and reading in many places. Because >> I've been involved in the testing of the Beta OCAL, I have found new ways of >> doing things (usually by making mistakes.) I'd like to make navigation and >> doing things on the Beta as simple as possible, and if they don't understand >> that, I want to make a guide for them to follow. >> >> We could use the wiki as a double place (CnP) to put this info, as it's >> similar to the FAQ, however, I have an almost pathological dislike of going >> to a different website to read help info on the same website. I feel >> useability is better when all the main info is right there. >> >> Thoughts? > > > -- > Cheers > Chovynz > </div></div></div></div><div class="im"><div><div></div><div>> _______________________________________________ > clipart mailing list > <a href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org" target="_blank">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> > > </div></div></div></blockquote></div> -- Cheers Chovynz _______________________________________________ clipart mailing list <a href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> </blockquote></div>