<html> <head> <style> .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Verdana } </style> </head> <body class='hmmessage'> Yes, the Nav bar, and the download button are looking great! (p.s i liked the oranges - but i think the files may be a little better ;-) Do you think "Volunteer" is a bit hash -- "Help Us" and a roll over of "Would you like to help the site?" would be a little less formal. p.s Would it ever be possible to have a forum installed on the site? -- phpbb is free -- and it keeps everything together, and would be much easier for newbies like me. I've no experiance in using wikis and this email service, i think i've missed a lot going into my junk mail :-( <HR id=stopSpelling> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:05:54 +0400 From: koptev.oleg@gmail.com To: michaelkrnac@googlemail.com CC: clipart@lists.freedesktop.org Subject: Re: [Clipart] BETA OCAL Help Out page changes + navigation ideas I like your Nav bar and help ideas. Also think Greg is fully right with 'Volunteer' instead of 'V. work'. Also it consist from one word, like other buttons :) <DIV class=EC_gmail_quote>2009/5/15 Michael Krnac <<A>michaelkrnac@googlemail.com</A>> <BLOCKQUOTE class=EC_gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex">Good idea! <DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=h5> On 5/15/09, Greg Bulmash <<A>oneminuteinspirations@gmail.com</A>> wrote: > I agree with using a different term than "Help Out" because, for the > sake of usability, links with the word "help" should lead to help for > users of the site. It prevents confusion. > > Just from a marketing point of view, I think it would be better to > simply use "Volunteer" than "Volunteer Work". > > Some people associate a positive feeling with the word "volunteer" while > they associate a negative feeling with the word "work". If you don't > want to use "volunteer" all by itself, use a more positive word with > it... "Volunteer Opportunities" or "Become A Volunteer". But I think > the word "Volunteer" all by itself works perfectly. It's short, active, > and conveys the right idea. > > - Greg > > > > chovynz wrote: >> This is my proposed button or something like it. >> >> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, chovynz <<A>chovynz@gmail.com</A> >> <mailto:<A>chovynz@gmail.com</A>>> wrote: >> >> RE: BETA OCAL Navigation and Help page suggestion. >> >> How would you guys feel if we changed the "Help Out" page title and >> navigation bar to "Volunteer Work". >> >> My reason for suggesting this is to be able to create a basic "Help" >> page - and Nav button - for people to read about how to do certain >> tasks or moving around the Beta site. Or we could put the basic >> "Help" things I have in mind on the "About" page. I am thinking of >> taking a whole heap of tips and hints from the old OCAL site, the >> Wiki, and with the new ways of doing things on the Beta, and putting >> them into an easy to read and understand format. >> >> My reason for doing THAT is because ever since I joined up to old >> OCAL it took awhile to find out how to do certain things. Mostly by >> trial and error and lots of lots of traveling the web and reading in >> many places. Because I've been involved in the testing of the Beta >> OCAL, I have found new ways of doing things (usually by making >> mistakes.) I'd like to make navigation and doing things on the Beta >> as simple as possible, and if they don't understand that, I want to >> make a guide for them to follow. >> >> We could use the wiki as a double place (CnP) to put this info, as >> it's similar to the FAQ, however, I have an almost pathological >> dislike of going to a different website to read help info on the >> same website. I feel useability is better when all the main info is >> right there. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Chovynz >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> clipart mailing list >> <A>clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</A> >> <A>http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</A> > _______________________________________________ > clipart mailing list > <A>clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</A> > <A>http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</A> > _______________________________________________ clipart mailing list <A>clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</A> <A>http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</A> </DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> -- C уважением, Коптев Олег With respect, Oleg Koptev Jabber ID - <A>koptevoleg@jabber.ru</A> WWW — <A>http://ktulhuntu.blogspot.com</A> <hr />Surfing the web just got more rewarding. <a href='http://extras.uk.msn.com/internet-explorer-8/?ocid=T010MSN07A0716U' target='_new'>Download the New Internet Explorer 8</a></body> </html>