I like your Nav bar and help ideas. Also think Greg is fully right with 'Volunteer' instead of 'V. work'. Also it consist from one word, like other buttons :) <div class="gmail_quote">2009/5/15 Michael Krnac <<a href="mailto:michaelkrnac@googlemail.com">michaelkrnac@googlemail.com</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Good idea! <div><div></div><div class="h5"> On 5/15/09, Greg Bulmash <<a href="mailto:oneminuteinspirations@gmail.com">oneminuteinspirations@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > I agree with using a different term than "Help Out" because, for the > sake of usability, links with the word "help" should lead to help for > users of the site. It prevents confusion. > > Just from a marketing point of view, I think it would be better to > simply use "Volunteer" than "Volunteer Work". > > Some people associate a positive feeling with the word "volunteer" while > they associate a negative feeling with the word "work". If you don't > want to use "volunteer" all by itself, use a more positive word with > it... "Volunteer Opportunities" or "Become A Volunteer". But I think > the word "Volunteer" all by itself works perfectly. It's short, active, > and conveys the right idea. > > - Greg > > > > chovynz wrote: >> This is my proposed button or something like it. >> >> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, chovynz <<a href="mailto:chovynz@gmail.com">chovynz@gmail.com</a> >> <mailto:<a href="mailto:chovynz@gmail.com">chovynz@gmail.com</a>>> wrote: >> >> RE: BETA OCAL Navigation and Help page suggestion. >> >> How would you guys feel if we changed the "Help Out" page title and >> navigation bar to "Volunteer Work". >> >> My reason for suggesting this is to be able to create a basic "Help" >> page - and Nav button - for people to read about how to do certain >> tasks or moving around the Beta site. Or we could put the basic >> "Help" things I have in mind on the "About" page. I am thinking of >> taking a whole heap of tips and hints from the old OCAL site, the >> Wiki, and with the new ways of doing things on the Beta, and putting >> them into an easy to read and understand format. >> >> My reason for doing THAT is because ever since I joined up to old >> OCAL it took awhile to find out how to do certain things. Mostly by >> trial and error and lots of lots of traveling the web and reading in >> many places. Because I've been involved in the testing of the Beta >> OCAL, I have found new ways of doing things (usually by making >> mistakes.) I'd like to make navigation and doing things on the Beta >> as simple as possible, and if they don't understand that, I want to >> make a guide for them to follow. >> >> We could use the wiki as a double place (CnP) to put this info, as >> it's similar to the FAQ, however, I have an almost pathological >> dislike of going to a different website to read help info on the >> same website. I feel useability is better when all the main info is >> right there. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Chovynz >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> clipart mailing list >> <a href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> >> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> > _______________________________________________ > clipart mailing list > <a href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> > _______________________________________________ clipart mailing list <a href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> -- C уважением, Коптев Олег With respect, Oleg Koptev Jabber ID - <a href="mailto:koptevoleg@jabber.ru">koptevoleg@jabber.ru</a> WWW — <a href="http://ktulhuntu.blogspot.com">http://ktulhuntu.blogspot.com</a>