*Puts on Admin hat* I'm contacting WkDesign to find out if the images in question can remain on OCAL in the PD or if he would like us to remove them. <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Oleg Koptev <<a href="mailto:koptev.oleg@gmail.com">koptev.oleg@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Fully agree! There is no sense in keeping such 'non-PD' files in OCAL. it's only lead to problems, confusion and frustration. there are tons of websites with free-not-for-commerce cliparts, but OCAL stands aside from them, primarily because Public Domain licensing - and PD makes OCAL really rocks. My 0.02 copeck. 2009/7/22, Jan-Olof Eriksson <<a href="mailto:jan-olof.eriksson@iki.fi">jan-olof.eriksson@iki.fi</a>>: <div><div></div><div class="h5">> Well this is confusing. If person agrees those terms, he must understand > that he reliquishing all copyright intrests he may have those images. If > user cant trust that, then whats the point of these licence? If there > are images other than PD licence, they should be removed. > > J-O.E > > "Jarod Russel" <<a href="mailto:JarodR@gmx.de">JarodR@gmx.de</a>> kirjoitti 22.7.2009: > >>Jan you do missunderstand. This is not a problem of the website. The >>website is a public platform. It's not like just 2 or 3 people upload >>cliparts at OCAL. Everyone can do it. The person who uploads the images >>has to agree that all cliparts uploaded are dedicated to the public >>domain and therefore they are. But that is still no guarantee! Mistakes >>can happen all the time. The responsability to make sure the images you >>want to use are really in the public domain is up to you and not to OCAL. >> >>I myself use a some of the images from OCAL for commercial stuff. So far >>no problems. >> >>Jan-Olof Eriksson schrieb: >>> Well you cant say "do what ever you want with these images" in web site >>> if thats not true. Then you should change that FAQ etc. Im glad i asked >>> because this PD lincence sounded too good to be true... >>> >>> J-O.E >>> >>> >>> >>> Jarod Russel kirjoitti: >>> >>>> You're right when wkdesign uploaded his cliparts he agreed to the public >>>> domain dedication. And I really don't say Gerald did something wrong. >>>> But if the licence is so clear, why did Gerald put a statement from >>>> W.Korn on every clipart that the cliparts free to use if they are anyway >>>> in the public domain? >>>> >>>> I found W.Korns website in the wkdesign profile on OCAL and noticed >>>> he/she is selling cliparts. I mailed him/her and asked that he/she is >>>> clear about what public domain means and he/she seemed to be suprised. >>>> I'm afraid I can't find the mail anymore. All I've got is that whats in >>>> the archives of this mailing list. >>>> >>>> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/clipart/2009-January/008939.html" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/clipart/2009-January/008939.html</a> >>>> >>>> Here W.Korn statet that the cliparts on OCAL are for personal use only. >>>> >>>> This all sounds like too much trouble to me for somebody who wants to >>>> use the images for commercial use. >>>> >>>> Greg Bulmash schrieb: >>>> >>>>> He agreed to the public domain dedication when he uploaded them. If >>>>> he didn't understand it, he doesn't have a whole lot of legal >>>>> recourse. He'll be able to delete them himself and stop OCAL from >>>>> further distributing them, but all current uses based on his upload >>>>> are going to be protected, including redistribution. >>>>> >>>>> It looks like Gerald G's stuff is based on wkdesign's zip file, so >>>>> Gerald was not out of line or even mistaken when he uploaded those >>>>> pieces. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jarod Russel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yeah but also if marked so, not every clipart is in the public >>>>>> domain. As I said in the beginning of the year already, cliparts made >>>>>> by Gerald G. featuring W.Korn are statet as free. That can mean >>>>>> everything. Also free for personal use but not for commercial. The >>>>>> member wkdesign is W. Korn and he stated clearly to me that his >>>>>> images are not in the public domain. >>>>>> >>>>>> My guess is some people load up their cliparts or other peoples work >>>>>> and don't read or don't understand the upload rules at OCAL. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you want to use images from <a href="http://openclipart.com" target="_blank">openclipart.com</a> for t-shirt printing >>>>>> let me tell you there is a risk. Definitly don't use things involving >>>>>> company names, famous logos, celebrities etc. Those cliparts may be >>>>>> in the public domain, but that doesn't mean they are free of 3rd >>>>>> party rights too. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jan-Olof Eriksson schrieb: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Just to make sure, so i can download these images from >>>>>>> <a href="http://openclipart.org" target="_blank">openclipart.org</a> >>>>>>> and sell them if i want to? Make t-shirts etc? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jan-Olof Eriksson >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> clipart mailing list >>>>>>> <a href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> >>>>>>> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> clipart mailing list >>>>>> <a href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> >>>>>> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> clipart mailing list >>>> <a href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> >>>> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > clipart mailing list > <a href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> > </div></div>-- C уважением, Коптев Олег With respect, Oleg Koptev, SISAM LLC. <div class="im"> Jabber ID - <a href="mailto:koptevoleg@jabber.ru">koptevoleg@jabber.ru</a> </div><div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________ clipart mailing list <a href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> -- Cheers Chovynz