<div dir="ltr">cool <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:14 AM, chovynz <<a href="mailto:chovynz@gmail.com">chovynz@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> <table height="697" width="1103"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"> </td><td valign="top">In reference to cliparts below. The following is a conversation for keeping. I'm sending it to the mailing list in case there is any doubt in the future. I'm also going to remove the pd_issue tag from the cliparts involved. Cheers Chovynz </td></tr><tr><td valign="top"> </td><td valign="top"> </td></tr><tr><td><chovynz></td> <td>Is someone here an admin for Wesnoth? I'm looking for someone who can answer an potential copyright infringement question.</td></tr><tr><td><<a>zookeeper</a>></td> <td>go ahead and ask and someone will reply sooner or later</td></tr><tr><td><chovynz></td><td> I'm a librarian on the Openclipart.org website. We host Public Domain cliparts for anyone to use. Awhile ago someone uploaded a character that is described as a Wesnoth character. I'm checking to see if those cliparts are actually Public domain or if they are copyrighted in any way. The cliparts can be found at <a href="http://www.openclipart.org/detail/16636" target="_blank">http://www.openclipart.org/detail/16636</a>, <a href="http://www.openclipart.org/detail/16656" target="_blank">http://www.openclipart.org/detail/16656</a>,...</td></tr><tr><td><chovynz></td> <td>...and <a href="http://www.openclipart.org/detail/16748" target="_blank">http://www.openclipart.org/detail/16748</a></td></tr><tr><td><chovynz></td> <td>They look very similar to the characters on the wiki already, so I was wondering if we need to do something about the Openclipart ones.</td></tr><tr><td><chovynz></td> <td><a href="http://wiki.wesnoth.org/WesnothFigures#Konrad" target="_blank">http://wiki.wesnoth.org/WesnothFigures#Konrad</a></td></tr><tr> <td><<a>zookeeper</a>></td><td>chovynz, those pictures themselves aren't from wesnoth, and i doubt any of our art devs or contributors drew them. obviously they're based on the wesnoth portraits, and especially the delfador one looks like it's just traced over the original.</td></tr><tr><td><chovynz></td><td>So does anyone know who drew the originals?</td></tr><tr><td><<a>Vornicus</a>></td> <td>Wesnoth art is apparently technically under the GPL; I'm... not entirely certain what that means for non-code things.</td></tr><tr><td><chovynz></td><td> Still, GPL isn't PD as far as I'm aware. If we are unable to get the original authors permission, I think we may have to remove these cliparts. (which is a real shame because they are fantastic!)</td></tr><tr><td><chovynz></td><td> Would there be someone here who can see the history of that page and let me know who uploaded those pix?</td></tr><tr><td><<a>zookeeper</a>></td> <td>just wait a moment, you'll get an answer of some kind in a bit..</td></tr><tr><td><<a>zookeeper</a>></td> <td>chovynz, jetrel is the artist who drew the originals, and he says he doesn't have a problem with it, so no, you don't have to remove them. those are notably lower-quality drawings based on the originals anyway, not direct derivative works IMO</td></tr><tr><td><<a>zookeeper</a>></td> <td>you can look at the original konrad and delfador portraits here: <a href="http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/images/portraits/" target="_blank">http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/images/portraits/</a></td> </tr><tr><td><<a>zookeeper</a>></td><td> well, actually he linked to those himself already, it seems...</td></tr><tr><td><chovynz></td><td> Thank you. You're sure they can be used with the Public Domain licence? once there that decision is irreversible. See <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/" target="_blank">http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/</a> for more info.</td></tr><tr><td><<a>zookeeper</a>></td> <td>i don't think that distributing those as PD would be in violation of jetrel's copyrights. sounds like a rather far-fetched idea since as you can see, they're different drawings, even if based on jetrel's portraits.</td></tr><tr><td><<a>zookeeper</a>></td> <td>and even in the (IMO very unlikely) case that someone could argue that there's a problem, you can be sure jetrel wouldn't sue anyone over those.</td></tr><tr><td><chovynz></td><td>Well I guess we can leave them as is for now. Thanks for your work in checking for me. </td></tr><tr><td><<a>zookeeper</a>></td> <td>no problem</td></tr><tr><td><<a>zookeeper</a>></td> <td><Jetrel> zookeeper: If it satisfies anyone, my original konrad/lisar can be public domain. I mean, fuck it.</td></tr><tr><td><<a>zookeeper</a>></td> <td>i guess that should make it pretty clear there's no problem ;)</td></tr><tr> <td><chovynz></td><td><td>lol.</td></td></tr></tbody></table> _______________________________________________ clipart mailing list <a href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> </blockquote></div> -- Jon Phillips <a href="http://rejon.org/">http://rejon.org/</a> <a href="http://fabricatorz.com/">http://fabricatorz.com/</a> <a href="http://status.net/">http://status.net/</a> <a href="http://rejon.status.net">http://rejon.status.net</a> + skype: kidproto +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) +86.134.3957.2035 (china) </div>