<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Yes we did have this issue, but on different clipart. I was just supporting the conclusion that I read from that thread. I think it does matter that other sites restrict use of their stuff. As I said on some other issues, I really don't care, either way, I just want to be sure I'm taking the right actions. I don't like to make this kind of messy "legal" and "moral" decision, so I'll support the decision we come to. I've been trying to pin Jon down on this issue for awhile now for him to make a decision on it, but he keeps dodging. :-) Ultimately it's "his" site, so a decision from him on this would be nice. Do we ignore their Few Exceptions or do we consider their PD free-game (and us viewed as a "bully".) At the moment I think our policy on "safe" PD stops us from using any clipart from sites that make silly exceptions like this, because once you put any requirements on a PD clipart, it's no longer PD. I would like some clarity on this, and I think ultimatelt only the Site Owners (Jon + ?) can decide. We can try to influence them either way. I'm against taking clipart from sites that make exceptions like these. John Olson is against (as far as I understand.) I think Nicubunu might be against, but I'm not sure. Jarod is for "not caring" about their exceptions. Anyone else want to have their say? Cheers Chovynz On 16/06/2010 6:21 p.m., Jarod Russel wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:4C186D64.1080407@gmx.de" type="cite"> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> Didn't we had this just the other day? If their cliparts are pd than their "Few Exceptions" do not matter, except for the logo and trademark one. Such restrictions are pointless and can be ignored with real pd material. Am 16-Jun-10 02:51 PM, schrieb chovynz: <blockquote cite="mid:4C18664C.7050401@gmail.com" type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> Clipart from <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeclipartnow.com">http://www.freeclipartnow.com</a> cannot be accepted. Taken from <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeclipartnow.com/termsofuse.php">http://www.freeclipartnow.com/termsofuse.php</a> on 16 June 2010, at 5:46pm "Product Usage All graphics on this site are placed into the Public Domain, which means that you can do almost whatever you wish with it. You can put the clipart into your own drawings and documents without any affect on the copyright or license of your work. Few Exceptions. <ul> <li>Company logos and trademarks can be used under "fair use" policy. More info <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Logos">here</a>.</li> <li>You may NOT use any component of our clipart or site content to produce what could be directly or indirectly considered a competitive venture against us.</li> <li>It's not necessary to provide a link back to this site, but it would be greatly appreciated"</li> </ul> Clipart affected. <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.openclipart.org/index.php?pretty=detail/67141">http://www.openclipart.org/index.php?pretty=detail/67141</a> <pre wrap=""><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> _______________________________________________ clipart mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> _______________________________________________ clipart mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>