<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> On 24/06/2010 5:28 a.m., Nathan Eady wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:87hbkt3bgp.fsf@donalbain.galionlibrary.net" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">No, no, if the original image that you're starting from is legitimately in the public domain, then I believe you're in the clear. </pre> </blockquote> That's the ultimate question for OCAL. :) "Is this legititamtely in the Public Domain?" Something that maaaaaaay impact us in the future ; on first reading some of the article I've read concern me: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100621/2320049908.shtml">http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100621/2320049908.shtml</a>. On a second pass it's not a worry long term since the government would not be concerned with private or corporate users own artwork. Then I see Hyped up news again, and life goes on. :) Still, this has been a good discussion. Thanks Nathan, Jarod, Greg, John and all those who have participated. Hopefully we all learned something or at least now we are more clear on where we stand. To summarise : <ul> <li>FreeClipartNow is another source which doesn't seem to know what Public Domain is. We can't really trust the sources of the clipart on that site, based on the incompatible "Fair Use" for copyrighted and trademarked clipart that are on that site. </li> <li>There seems to be large risk associated with FCN, so any clipart that has directly come from there would be better off removed from the Library, so that OCAL continues to build the trust with it's end users. That and (I personally) respect exception statements like that, even if I strongly dislike and disagree with them. Legally on a public domain clipart issue, I don't think there's anything that they could do if we DID take their clipart, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth if I take others work, just so that I can have more clipart. I'd rather OCAL doesn't get a reputation for that sort of thing.</li> <li>OCAL is aiming to be the best clipart collection around, that means no strings attached and minimal risk to the end user. I think we've all agreed that we want "clean" clipart, that can be used without risk?</li> <li>Investigate cliparts that seem to have any association with FCN (and other blacklisted sites). Who had it first? Is there another source? For ones that are clearly from FCN, remove them. For clipart that is either ours first, or from somewhere else (verifiable) and both sites have it, these can remain in the OCAL Library.</li> </ul> That about sum it up? Cheers Chovynz </body> </html>