<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Further research: Compare (obvious search) <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.openclipart.org/tags/naked">http://www.openclipart.org/tags/naked</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.openclipart.org/search/?query=naked">http://www.openclipart.org/search/?query=naked</a> The search is working fine, in filtering search queries, however, wasn't nsfw tagged clipart supposed to be invis'ed from regular users until they click a checkbox "Show nsfw" in their user profile settings? I'm also seeing the tag "nsfw" now. And obviosuly Anon users can see these ones at various stages under various tags. Cache has been refreshed. On 14/07/2010 10:38 p.m., Bassel Safadi wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:AANLkTikV_I_0WLL8Jpd7QLDBqjLi1xA17zV1pEfv2bFZ@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">chovynz, <div>I'm not able to see any of the NSFW tagged images when not logged in, maybe it's a cache problem in your browser? or if not please send me what NSFW images are showing where? <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:23 PM, chovynz <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:chovynz@gmail.com">chovynz@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Ok, I've found another problem. Anonymous users (as in not logged in) can see all nsfw, and logged in users cannot. That's at the very least the opposite way around to what it needs to be. You'll need to correct this Bassel since no-one else can yet, unless this is weirdly intentional? No use marking them as nsfw if "not logged in" can see them. Cheers Chovynz <div class="im"> On 14/07/2010 9:45 p.m., Donna Benjamin wrote: </div> <div> <div class="h5"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I don't think they should be censored in anyway - I think we should just flag the fact they are 'adult' content. It is a very fine line indeed. If it was a doll, with clothing options for dressing and undressing, there would be no problem. But these particular images are of women in sexualised poses. Many workplaces have very strict policies and most education jurisdictions would object to this material for young children. As I said I have no problem with the images, flagging them 'not safe for work (NSFW)' is a perfect solution. The content remains, unchanged, but we're not promoting it on the front page - which could cause openclipart to be banned in schools - which would be a huge shame, as most of the content is perfectly suitable, and very useful in the classroom. Yes - I'd be happy to act as Librarian - and tag material I see, or that was flagged for review by others. cheers Donna On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 18:23 +1200, chovynz wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Should we consider removing the words and changing the descriptions on cliparts like this? or we leave the words as is and if the uploader uses words such as these that's when we nsfw them? (I prefer the second option from a Librarian POV, and the first sounds like censorship to me.) On 14/07/2010 6:19 p.m., <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jon@rejon.org" target="_blank">jon@rejon.org</a> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I think we should be more conservative on the main page, and yes, striptease and that they are easily undressable. Jon On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:09 PM, chovynz<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:chovynz@gmail.com" target="_blank">chovynz@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I'm aware of the clipart, I don't necessarily agree with the decision to hide them. Was it due to the title and wording only or the fact that they can be undressed? What's the way forward with these types of cliparts? Where's the line? Is it if the title or tags says such things, or is it any clipart that can be "undressed" irrespective of words? Cheers Chovynz On 14/07/2010 12:08 p.m., Jon Phillips wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> actually, that functionality already is in place. I made the clipart NSFW and they vanished :) Donna, you want to help us patrol our clipart? We can make you a librarian :) Jon On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Jon Phillips<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jon@rejon.org" target="_blank">jon@rejon.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> totally, we have this in mind. Bassel, can we make sure that the NSFW tagged content is not allowed on the main popular images section. I agree, we should make sure our front page is good for all. Jon On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Donna Benjamin<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:donna@kattekrab.net" target="_blank">donna@kattekrab.net</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hey jon, I was using openclipart with some teachers in the past few weeks. There are currently three clips in the popular downloads this month section on the front page that could be seen as inapropriate for school children. This could result in openclipart being blocked by school networks. That would suck. I've got no problem with the images themselves, but wonder if we should be thinking about some kind of rating or tagging system that means they could be filtered out? Images in question Striptease girl (you can undress me!) by rones Cheerleader (you can undress me!) by rones Asian girl cosplay by shokunin What do you think? 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