<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Forwarded to the mailling list, for communication clarity.<br> <br> <br> -------- Original Message -------- <table class="moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <th valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap">Subject: </th> <td>Re: [Clipart] Logo should be removed.</td> </tr> <tr> <th valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap">Date: </th> <td>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 00:16:42 -0400</td> </tr> <tr> <th valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap">From: </th> <td>Shawn Evans <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:shawnf.evans@gmail.com"><shawnf.evans@gmail.com></a></td> </tr> <tr> <th valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap">To: </th> <td>chovynz <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chovynz@gmail.com"><chovynz@gmail.com></a></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <br> <br> <pre>I am not sure I follow where this became an issue of offence? Who is offended? My main concern is in mistaken identity and in using this symbol in the logo contest. Maybe its me, but I just do not see how it fits? On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:26 PM, chovynz <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chovynz@gmail.com"><chovynz@gmail.com></a> wrote: > On reading Jon's reply I realise that some html might have gotten stripped > out. > Here is the example if you missed it before. > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://openclipart.org/wiki/File:User-profile-settings2.jpg">http://openclipart.org/wiki/File:User-profile-settings2.jpg</a> > > On 15/07/2010 9:23 a.m., <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a> wrote: >> >> Yes, totally. some type of allow ther person filter their view of the >> universe is in order. >> >> Jon >> >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:54 PM, chovynz<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chovynz@gmail.com"><chovynz@gmail.com></a> wrote: >> >>> >>> While I sympathise with what you have written, and are feeling about this >>> clipart, when swastikas are put up, we don't remove those. When upside >>> down >>> crosses are put up we don't remove those. If we make an exception for >>> Odinism/Ásatrú when it offends someone, then we also need to make >>> exceptions >>> when our clipart offends the Christians/Muslims/Hindu faiths/German >>> history >>> as well. This is a black hole that we will never escape from if we start >>> down that road. That's something that has been clear from the beginning, >>> we >>> don't remove clipart based on offensiveness, and so I disagree with the >>> request for removal. >>> >>> I don't really know how to address this issue (since compassion to other >>> people is one of the foundations of good community), yet I also think >>> there >>> is nothing to be done, based on the policies of OCAL and what they have >>> been >>> for a long time. >>> >>> One thing I can suggest is having a function in the user profile >>> settings, a >>> function that excludes displaying user-input tags. So if the clipart is >>> tagged correctly it might be possible to custom-censor your own Library >>> experience. Programmers like Bassel would be able to tell you if this >>> idea >>> is actually possible, but it's one that if it works might address the >>> whole >>> larger issue of offensive cliparts. See here for example. >>> >>> I hope this helps understanding in some small way. >>> >>> Chovynz >>> >>> >>> >>> On 15/07/2010 2:49 a.m., Shawn Evans wrote: >>> >>> Greets! >>> >>> I know that I don't say much here on the list but the logo submission >>> found at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.openclipart.org/index.php?pretty=detail/71893">http://www.openclipart.org/index.php?pretty=detail/71893</a> >>> should be removed.As per my comment on the submission: >>> >>> "I think this one should be removed. As a practitioner of Ásatrú, I >>> feel that the Valknot should not be used on a logo of this type. It is >>> a symbol of the god Odin and of the Ásatrú faith and religion in >>> general." >>> >>> I am not sure why the Valknot was chosen for this logo, but the Knot >>> of the Slain has deep meaning to those who are Ásatrú or >>> Odian/Odinist. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> clipart mailing list >>> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> >>> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> clipart mailing list >>> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> >>> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > clipart mailing list > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> > </pre> </body> </html>