<div dir="ltr">I understand your feeling Nicu.<div><br></div><div>However, I was part of the creation of CC Zero and the updated CC PDM at CC and it they were created to solve problems inspired by our project and some others in particular in countries that don't have a concept of public domain and even worse, legal infrastructure in the way of releasing all rights as we want to do.</div>
<div><br>So, now if you look at the CC Zero, its called also the CC Zero Public Domain Dedication tool.</div><div><br></div><div>I literally fought really hard against this CC Zero branding internally at CC, but no one will get to hear those tales (well maybe over some beers later at LGM2011 ;), but I lost out, or rather, I moved onto my new lifestyle ;) THus, CC Zero and the CC PDM both survived and now have become real.</div>
<div><br>So, we really need to go with CC Zero and these statements for our own good.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>Jon<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Tobias Jakobs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tobias.jakobs@googlemail.com">tobias.jakobs@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi,<br>
<br>
I like CC Zero because it is at least in Germany the better way to<br>
publish content. We don't have a concept of Public Domain her.<br>
But I know that Nicu doesn't like the CC 0 for reasons I don't understand:<br>
<a href="http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2010/11/creative-commons-retiring-public-domain.html" target="_blank">http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2010/11/creative-commons-retiring-public-domain.html</a><br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Tobias<br>
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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 08:22, <a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a> <<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> Really? No one has any thoughts on this? I want to move on this before the<br>
> release. Its pretty important.<br>
> Jon<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 2:56 PM, <a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a> <<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi all, I think we should switch the site to use CC Zero for waiving the<br>
>> rights of uploaded cliparts. This is a tool by Creative Commons that gets<br>
>> public domain to work internationally. Its effectively what we are doing by<br>
>> releasing content into the public domain. This older tool is now deprecated.<br>
>> See the link at the bottom of all of our pages:<br>
>> <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/" target="_blank">http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/</a><br>
>><br>
>> My recommendation is that we should switch to CC Zero for all<br>
>> contributions to the site:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://creativecommons.org/choose/zero/results?license-class=zero&name=&actor_href=&work_title=&work_jurisdiction=-&confirm=confirm&understand=confirm&field1=continue&waiver-affirm=affirm" target="_blank">http://creativecommons.org/choose/zero/results?license-class=zero&name=&actor_href=&work_title=&work_jurisdiction=-&confirm=confirm&understand=confirm&field1=continue&waiver-affirm=affirm</a><br>
>> The older tool we used from Creative Commons now covers works that are<br>
>> already in the public domain, and this is skewed towards countries that have<br>
>> a concept of the public domain, like the United States.<br>
>> <a href="http://creativecommons.org/choose/mark/" target="_blank">http://creativecommons.org/choose/mark/</a><br>
>> So, I go back to CC Zero:<br>
>> <a href="http://creativecommons.org/choose/zero/" target="_blank">http://creativecommons.org/choose/zero/</a> which is now considered the CC0<br>
>> Public Dedication Tool.<br>
>> Lets switch before our next release.<br>
>> Also, part of my tasks for the next release is to put a policies page and<br>
>> DMCA up for OCAL. I tried to effect with the CC0 change and then some other<br>
>> things learned from the CC site. Ifyou have questions or concens, please<br>
>> bring them up. They are just drafts for the policies and DMCA pages.<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://openclipart.org/policies" target="_blank">http://openclipart.org/policies</a><br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://openclipart.org/dmca" target="_blank">http://openclipart.org/dmca</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Jon<br>
>><br>
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