To Jon or Bassel I hope you have backups. I'm tired of the interlinked problems. The only thing I did was change one value in the css. div.r-img-i {width:110px;} to div.r-img-i {width:100px;} And the whole site crashed. This after successfully already unwinding much of the css spagehtti code. Fucking stupid. Now, I can't login to admin, and no-one can see the site. Nothing I can do from my end. Someone with ssh access is going to have to fix whatever went wrong. I was editing the "main" widget css at the time. I hope you've got a log file of what happened, because I'm sure I did nothing that would cause this, since I was only playing with the layouts of the cliparts that were displayed on the main page to get them to fit better. If i did do something, then I need to know what it was, so that I can avoid that in the future. I'm going to take a break. sheesh. -- Cheers Chovynz