Hi Ryan<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 2:36 AM, ryan sukale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ryantechnical@gmail.com">ryantechnical@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hi Chovy,
<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the response.</div><div><br></div><div>I have been browsing through the list of bugs and blueprints in the milestone link that you have provided.</div><div><br></div><div>I have a few queries.</div>
<div><br></div><div>1) I was unable to figure out the meaning of a few "Status" labels. For example</div><div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(255, 102, 0);font-family:'UbuntuBeta Regular', Ubuntu, 'Bitstream Vera Sans', 'DejaVu Sans', Tahoma, sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:18px">Triaged</span></div>
<div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(255, 0, 0);font-family:'UbuntuBeta Regular', Ubuntu, 'Bitstream Vera Sans', 'DejaVu Sans', Tahoma, sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:18px">Confirmed</span></div>
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</span></div>I guess there might be more of these. Where do i get the information of such tags from and what do you guys mean by it.</blockquote><div><br>Triaged is a term that I don't really understand either, but nurses use it to say which is most important for the doctor to see first. So in this context I guess it means that someone thinks this is most important, or has reviewed the bug and has said something like "Yes this is a valid bug". Because I don't understand triaged I don't use it. If some bug is incomplete or not implemented, then I will pick one of those to work on that is in my skill set. Sometimes I deliberately pick things that are a challenge to me, so that I will be forced to grow.<br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div>2) It seems you need someone to do some design work in these bugs</div>
<div><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/openclipart/+bug/721520" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/openclipart/+bug/721520</a></div><div><br></div><div>Since i cant understand the status tag, I am not sure whether it is done or it is still being worked on. Moreover the link mentioned by rejon for this bug takes me to the page "<span style="font-family:Arial, Tahoma, sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:12px">error file not found". I think, that's a broken link.</span></div>
</blockquote><div> </div><div>I think so too. It's a nondescriptive bug with a broken link that used to work before we "fixed" the system. :-) However the title of the bug will give us a clue as to "What was Jon thinking!" So we can then go to a real clipart detail page to see what he means. <a href="http://www.openclipart.org/detail/131161/lemon-by-gnokii">http://www.openclipart.org/detail/131161/lemon-by-gnokii</a> . Is there a way that you could make this look better? Streamline the usage perhaps? have a play to see what you can come up with as a mockup first.<br>
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<div><span style="font-family:Arial, Tahoma, sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:12px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial, Tahoma, sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:12px">3) I thought i can mention the broken link in the comment thread for the bug, but I am not sure if its ok if I should be doing that since ive joined just yesterday. Or is it ok?</span></div>
</blockquote><div>Yes, it's ok. You are an equal in OCAL development, so be bold. You might be new, but you are now a developer, so be one. Point out things that need fixing so that we are aware of it. Or fix it yourself :-)<br>
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<div><span style="font-family:Arial, Tahoma, sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:12px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial, Tahoma, sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:12px">4) I had an idea in mind regarding improving the "add to collection" link that you have. It could be made more ajaxy so that page refresh'es can be reduced. That was the main reason that actually made me want to join the project. I think, before i pitch in the blueprint, ill have to know a bit more about Aiki. I am not sure about what all i need to learn as of this stage. By the way I am a programmer by profession.</span></div>
</blockquote><div>Cool! Talk to Brad Phillips about the "add to collection". That is/was his baby. (But remember to be bold! We are all looking to improve the OCAL site, (and AIKI) so if you think something can be improved, I am sure that Brad will be enthusiastically grateful. :-) ) <br>
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<div><span style="font-family:Arial, Tahoma, sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:12px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial, Tahoma, sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:12px"><i><b>5) If i decide to make changes to the css or javascript or html, how and where do i test it before submitting it? Do i need to install Aiki and ubuntu locally, and download the source code for open clip art and install it? Right now i have no clue how to do either. But if required, ill definitely do it? Or is there a test environment?</b></i></span></div>
</blockquote><div> </div><div>I don't use Ubuntu. I use WindowsXP, with Firefox and a number of software development plugins installed. Firebug being one of them, and I make extensive use of the DOM inspector and other features of Firebug. In essence, I test my changes before I even log into OCAL Live to do anything on the code. <br>
<br>As for the HTML and CSS, I usually test these things out on a test page that I have created on the live site. Once I know it's working, then I move the necessary code over to the relevant pages. I don't even bother with a test environment because it's too progress slow for me. I see something that needs doing? I do it. I am just careful with the things that I change on the live site. Nothing like the threat of pulling down a website that is popular to the magnitude of 10,000's daily visits to keep oneself's actions in perspective. :-) <br>
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<div><span style="font-family:Arial, Tahoma, sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:12px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial, Tahoma, sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:12px">6) Instead of bugging you with all these queries, is there a page anywhere where such questions have been answered? If not, and such a page needs to be created, i can do that too, once i have got a hang of the system. For now, i just dont know where.</span></div>
</blockquote><div>Bugging me is fine. I am here to help. I would prefer that you include the clipart list in our conversations so that other people can learn from our conversations and your questions, but that is a small issue, which I resolve by including clipart mailing list in my replies. If you wanted to make permanant specific questions you could also use the Questions feature on Launchpad. The choice is yours really. <br>
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<div><br></div><div>Well, there are more questions, but I think <span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px">I will tell you more once these initial things are cleared from my checklist so as not to overload </span><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px">you. Yet. ;-)</span></div>
</blockquote><div>Touché!<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px">Most important question is question 5. The one in bold and italics. Because i want to get started soon, since i think its gonna take me some time to get a hang of the system. And i dont use a linux system, so ill have to do it in a virtual machine. And then installation may take time too.</span></div>
</blockquote><div>As I said before, I am not on a linux system, so this is a non-issue to me. Use what suits you. The main thing to remember is that OCAL is made with HTML and Javascript. You actually do not need to learn aiki if you don't want to. Some of the keywords you'll pick up as you go along. If you DO want to learn aiki then the best place to be is in the aikiframework with the other members of the team. It depends where you want to focus your skills. On the frontend of OCAL or the backend of the Aiki framework. (or both!)<br>
<br>What is your timezone? We could skype or IRC together sometime and I take you through questions and modifying the site in a session. I am GMT+12<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px">Ok, last question - Is there some other place where i should be asking all of this?</span></div>
<div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px">Thanks for your patience. Really feel sorry to be asking you all of this. But i have to know this.</span></div>
</blockquote><div>The only dumb question is one that is not asked. I am glad you bugged me. Keep asking, either here or on the questions in launchpad.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px">Regards,</span></div>
<div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px">Ryan</span></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Cheers<br>Chovynz<br>