Hi, again stop interpreting laws, I told you before there is a difference between impression and attribution, I can say "Nicu Buculei is in my opinion to stupid to read licenses and understand laws" or I can say "Nicu Buculei is to stupid to read licenses and understand laws". The first one is very clear marked as opinion and leaves the decision if the message is true or not to the receiver of the message, the other one is a statement and there cant be made an decission, because its already made. Impression is saying "I worked very hard to collect the clipart" that leaves the decission if you made them open. Some might think that collect means you created them some read more carefully. But saying "I worked hard to create them" is attribution and that right is after CC0 still be owned by the waiver/creator. The whole discussion you started, shows at least to me you are amongst the people that would read in "collect" - "create" You way out of line, but you dont get it. You question me after the acceptance of that term, where did I ever say I dont accept it? I just told you that you have to read that term more carefully. That term doesnt deny me as creator my moral rights or where is it written, that it is allowed to SAY that you have created it? For the law is a difference between a lie and not telling the truth. br gnokii <div class="gmail_quote">2013/7/3 Nicu Buculei <<a href="mailto:nicu_gfx@nicubunu.ro" target="_blank">nicu_gfx@nicubunu.ro</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> S.Kemter wrote: > Hi, Hi Sirko, You forgot to add the list as a recipient and sent the message only privately to me. <div> > the CC0 is legal, but a guy named Nicu Buculei cant read but interprets > laws and licenses. </div>I am glad you replied, since this is a proper place to discuss this issue, not a random G+ conversation. So have a look at the page listing the terms we are offering our images under: <a href="http://openclipart.org/may-clipart-be-used-comparison" target="_blank">http://openclipart.org/may-clipart-be-used-comparison</a> Do you agree with them, all of them, or do you think some of them do not apply to your submissions? Thank you. <div> > A few mintues ago, he told me the following: > ] > "Copyright and Related Rights", where Related Rights include also moral > rights. > > I find that very funny because in paragraph 1 is explained what in this > cas > copyright and related rights means and guess what > </div>> *ii moral rights retained by the original author(s) and/or performer(s); <div>> * > so it looks, Nicu has a little problem reading and understanding licenses </div>Yes, you are reading it wrong, it says Related Rights include the moral rights, that's a quote from the full legal text of the license: "Copyright and Related Rights include, but are not limited to, the following: [...] moral rights retained by the original author(s) and/or performer(s);" (<a href="http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalcode" target="_blank">http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalcode</a>) Point 1. lists the rights and then point 2. waives them. <div><div> -- nicu :: <a href="http://nicubunu.ro" target="_blank">http://nicubunu.ro</a> :: <a href="http://nicubunu.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://nicubunu.blogspot.com</a> _______________________________________________ clipart mailing list <a href="mailto:clipart@lists.freedesktop.org" target="_blank">clipart@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> -- make me rich, buy my Inkscape book <a href="http://is.gd/yq5OD0" target="_blank">http://is.gd/yq5OD0</a> ;)