I see no problem with your nvidia temps But, i have seen this exact behavior when 'indirect rendering' is enabled. <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:00 PM, <<a href="mailto:compiz-request@lists.freedesktop.org">compiz-request@lists.freedesktop.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Send compiz mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:compiz@lists.freedesktop.org">compiz@lists.freedesktop.org</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/compiz" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/compiz</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:compiz-request@lists.freedesktop.org">compiz-request@lists.freedesktop.org</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:compiz-owner@lists.freedesktop.org">compiz-owner@lists.freedesktop.org</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of compiz digest..." Today's Topics: 1. 8.2 behaving weird on openSuSE 10.3 & 11.0 (David C. Rankin) 2. Re: 8.2 behaving weird on openSuSE 10.3 & 11.0 (Sam Spilsbury) 3. Re: 8.2 behaving weird on openSuSE 10.3 & 11.0 (David C. Rankin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:33:14 -0500 From: "David C. Rankin" <<a href="mailto:drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com">drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com</a>> Subject: [compiz] 8.2 behaving weird on openSuSE 10.3 & 11.0 To: <a href="mailto:compiz@lists.freedesktop.org">compiz@lists.freedesktop.org</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:200908181433.14572.drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com">200908181433.14572.drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com</a>> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Listmates, I installed 8.2 on opensuse 10.3 from the opensuse XGL repository to replace 7.6. Compiz works with the nvidia 8600 GT card (512M of GDDR3) on the box, but the ctrl+alt <- -> switching behavior is really bad. In 7.6, the ctrl+alt <- -> desktop switching changed desktops crisply with just the slightest hint of the cube detected during the very short and nice switch. In 8.2, the cube hangs fully visible on the desktop for a 1/2 msec or so before settling into the full screen view of the selected desktop. I have adjusted all the timings and zooms individually and cannot hit upon a workable switch like with 7.6. (the defaults worked fine on 7.6) Additionally, in 7.6 you could basically "spin" the cube with ctrl+alt <- -> and the spin was smooth and looked perfect. (guessing 1 side each 1/100 of a second) In 8.2, there is no "spin" just a "ka-chunk" "ka-chunk" as the cube rotates very slow and awkwardly at (again guessing 1 side each 1/4 second) Also, when the cube face settles into its full-screen view it isn't very smooth. It kind-of "wiggles" into place. Cylinder rotation also suffers extreme slowness. In 7.6, ctrl+alt+button1 rotated the desktop lightning fast even with animated skydome. In 8.2 there is marked slowness. For the new install of 8.2, I completely removed my existing ~/.config/compiz directory (it's saved if I need it again) and let 8.2 create a fresh config directory. I also upgraded python-GTK as required. I am stumped concerning what I have messed up with the install. I have put the configs for both 7.6 and 8.2 up at: <a href="http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/compiz/82issues/compiz-76/" target="_blank">http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/compiz/82issues/compiz-76/</a> <a href="http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/compiz/82issues/compiz-82/" target="_blank">http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/compiz/82issues/compiz-82/</a> The Default.ini for 76 is: 82issues> cat compiz-76/compizconfig/Default.ini [decoration] as_command = emerald --replace [core] as_active_plugins = core;ccp;png;decoration;minimize;wobbly;place;regex;dbus;resize;zoom;move;fade;cube;switcher;scale;rotate; as_run_command0 = <Alt>F2,Button0,,0,false as_run = ,Button0,,0,false as_texture_filter = 2 as_toggle_window_shaded_key = Disabled [screenshot] [cubecaps] s0_top_images = /home/david/linux/wallpapers/stay-off-these- drugs.png;/home/david/Pictures/bonfire_old.png;fusioncap.png s0_scale_top_image = true s0_bottom_images = /home/david/linux/wallpapers/stay-off-these- drugs.png;compizcap.png s0_scale_bottom_image = true [cube] s0_skydome_image = /usr/share/wallpapers/nightwidescreen.png s0_active_opacity = 80.000000 as_next_slide_key = Disabled s0_skydome = true s0_color = #7378d17a s0_images = /usr/share/compiz/opensuse_alien.png;opensuse; s0_skydome_gradient_start_color = #7378d18b s0_skydome_gradient_end_color = #77786066 [trailfocus] [cubereflex] s0_intensity = 0.604545 s0_ground_color1 = #001cd6cc [annotate] [ring] as_prev_all_key = <Shift><Control><Super>Tab as_next_all_key = <Control><Super>Tab s0_thumb_width = 525 s0_thumb_height = 424 s0_min_scale = 0.351200 [zoom] [wobbly] [bench] [move] [firepaint] [cubeaddon] s0_sphere_aspect = 0.705100 s0_ground_color1 = #5763cbcc s0_intensity = 0.610200 s0_top_images = /usr/share/compiz/opensuse_alien.png;fusioncap.png; s0_bottom_images = /usr/share/compiz/opensuse_alien.png;compizcap.png; s0_top_scale = false s0_bottom_scale = false s0_top_color = #7378d176 s0_bottom_color = #7378d174 [rotate] s0_zoom = 0.628600 [fade] [shift] as_terminate_button = Disabled [shelf] as_reset_key = <Super>k [expo] as_ground_color1 = #2f83cdcc as_vp_brightness = 50.000000 as_scale_factor = 0.800000 as_ground_size = 0.600000 as_expo_animation = 1 as_vp_distance = 0.101400 as_zoom_time = 0.850000 For 82: 82issues> cat compiz-82/compizconfig/Default.ini [decoration] as_command = emerald --replace [core] as_active_plugins = core;png;decoration;splash;wobbly;svg;resize;zoom;move;shift;cube;obs;switcher;rotate;cubeaddon;expo; [cube] s0_skydome_image = /home/david/linux/wallpapers/1680x1050/78638- KDE_Desktop3.5.png s0_skydome = true s0_active_opacity = 40.000000 s0_skydome_animated = false [cubeaddon] s0_intensity = 0.640000 s0_deformation = 1 s0_sphere_aspect = 0.100000 s0_cylinder_manual_only = true s0_ground_size = 0.300000 s0_auto_zoom = false [wobbly] s0_spring_k = 6.000000 s0_friction = 2.500000 [expo] [rotate] s0_zoom = 0.400000 s0_timestep = 1.000000 s0_speed = 6.000000 [shift] as_terminate_button = Disabled I can look and tell that there are differences, but not being more familiar with what the individual settings are, I'm shooting in the dark. Anybody see anything that would explain the differences in behavior? This may be an openSuSE issue. I have been running 8.2 on Arch Linux for a couple of months without any of these issues. I don't know if that helps, but I really like the way 8.2 runs and I would like to solve the issues I am having on opensuse. What do the compiz gurus suggest I try? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 <a href="http://www.rankinlawfirm.com" target="_blank">www.rankinlawfirm.com</a> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:01:30 +0800 From: Sam Spilsbury <<a href="mailto:smspillaz@gmail.com">smspillaz@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: [compiz] 8.2 behaving weird on openSuSE 10.3 & 11.0 To: "David C. Rankin" <<a href="mailto:drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com">drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com</a>> Cc: "compiz." <<a href="mailto:compiz@lists.freedesktop.org">compiz@lists.freedesktop.org</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:5e20e5fc0908181701i2621ab02r578f7ae1595d55c3@mail.gmail.com">5e20e5fc0908181701i2621ab02r578f7ae1595d55c3@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Apologies, Forwarding to the list. PS. This list is deprecated. Please use the Compiz Community list instead (<a href="mailto:comm@lists.compiz.org">comm@lists.compiz.org</a> IIRC) On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Sam Spilsbury<<a href="mailto:smspillaz@gmail.com">smspillaz@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:33 AM, David C. > Rankin<<a href="mailto:drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com">drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com</a>> wrote: >> Listmates, >> >> ? ? ? ?I installed 8.2 on opensuse 10.3 from the opensuse XGL repository to replace >> 7.6. Compiz works with the nvidia 8600 GT card (512M of GDDR3) on the box, but >> the ctrl+alt <- -> switching behavior is really bad. >> >> ? ? ? ?In 7.6, the ctrl+alt <- -> desktop switching changed desktops crisply with >> just the slightest hint of the cube detected during the very short and nice >> switch. >> >> ? ? ? ?In 8.2, the cube hangs fully visible on the desktop for a 1/2 msec or so >> before settling into the full screen view of the selected desktop. I have >> adjusted all the timings and zooms individually and cannot hit upon a workable >> switch like with 7.6. (the defaults worked fine on 7.6) >> >> ? ? ? ?Additionally, in 7.6 you could basically "spin" the cube with ctrl+alt <- -> >> and the spin was smooth and looked perfect. (guessing 1 side each 1/100 of a >> second) In 8.2, there is no "spin" just a "ka-chunk" "ka-chunk" as the cube >> rotates very slow and awkwardly at (again guessing 1 side each 1/4 second) >> >> ? ? ? ?Also, when the cube face settles into its full-screen view it isn't very >> smooth. It kind-of "wiggles" into place. >> >> ? ? ? ?Cylinder rotation also suffers extreme slowness. In 7.6, ctrl+alt+button1 >> rotated the desktop lightning fast even with animated skydome. In 8.2 there is >> marked slowness. >> >> ? ? ? ?For the new install of 8.2, I completely removed my existing ~/.config/compiz >> directory (it's saved if I need it again) and let 8.2 create a fresh config >> directory. I also upgraded python-GTK as required. >> >> ? ? ? ?I am stumped concerning what I have messed up with the install. I have put >> the configs for both 7.6 and 8.2 up at: >> >> <a href="http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/compiz/82issues/compiz-76/" target="_blank">http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/compiz/82issues/compiz-76/</a> >> >> <a href="http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/compiz/82issues/compiz-82/" target="_blank">http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/compiz/82issues/compiz-82/</a> > > No real changes have been made to these plugins between releases that > would cause major slowness. > > I would think that you have been hit by the nvidia clocking-down > misfeature. Turn on things like blur, etc and see if the card maxes > out it's clock speed again. > >> >> ? ? ? ?The Default.ini for 76 is: >> >> 82issues> cat compiz-76/compizconfig/Default.ini >> [decoration] >> as_command = emerald --replace >> >> [core] >> as_active_plugins = >> core;ccp;png;decoration;minimize;wobbly;place;regex;dbus;resize;zoom;move;fade;cube;switcher;scale;rotate; >> as_run_command0 = <Alt>F2,Button0,,0,false >> as_run = ,Button0,,0,false >> as_texture_filter = 2 >> as_toggle_window_shaded_key = Disabled >> >> [screenshot] >> >> [cubecaps] >> s0_top_images = /home/david/linux/wallpapers/stay-off-these- >> drugs.png;/home/david/Pictures/bonfire_old.png;fusioncap.png >> s0_scale_top_image = true >> s0_bottom_images = /home/david/linux/wallpapers/stay-off-these- >> drugs.png;compizcap.png >> s0_scale_bottom_image = true >> >> [cube] >> s0_skydome_image = /usr/share/wallpapers/nightwidescreen.png >> s0_active_opacity = 80.000000 >> as_next_slide_key = Disabled >> s0_skydome = true >> s0_color = #7378d17a >> s0_images = /usr/share/compiz/opensuse_alien.png;opensuse; >> s0_skydome_gradient_start_color = #7378d18b >> s0_skydome_gradient_end_color = #77786066 >> >> [trailfocus] >> >> [cubereflex] >> s0_intensity = 0.604545 >> s0_ground_color1 = #001cd6cc >> >> [annotate] >> >> [ring] >> as_prev_all_key = <Shift><Control><Super>Tab >> as_next_all_key = <Control><Super>Tab >> s0_thumb_width = 525 >> s0_thumb_height = 424 >> s0_min_scale = 0.351200 >> >> [zoom] >> >> [wobbly] >> >> [bench] >> >> [move] >> >> [firepaint] >> >> [cubeaddon] >> s0_sphere_aspect = 0.705100 >> s0_ground_color1 = #5763cbcc >> s0_intensity = 0.610200 >> s0_top_images = /usr/share/compiz/opensuse_alien.png;fusioncap.png; >> s0_bottom_images = /usr/share/compiz/opensuse_alien.png;compizcap.png; >> s0_top_scale = false >> s0_bottom_scale = false >> s0_top_color = #7378d176 >> s0_bottom_color = #7378d174 >> >> [rotate] >> s0_zoom = 0.628600 >> >> [fade] >> >> [shift] >> as_terminate_button = Disabled >> >> [shelf] >> as_reset_key = <Super>k >> >> [expo] >> as_ground_color1 = #2f83cdcc >> as_vp_brightness = 50.000000 >> as_scale_factor = 0.800000 >> as_ground_size = 0.600000 >> as_expo_animation = 1 >> as_vp_distance = 0.101400 >> as_zoom_time = 0.850000 >> >> ? ? ? ?For 82: >> >> 82issues> cat compiz-82/compizconfig/Default.ini >> [decoration] >> as_command = emerald --replace >> >> [core] >> as_active_plugins = >> core;png;decoration;splash;wobbly;svg;resize;zoom;move;shift;cube;obs;switcher;rotate;cubeaddon;expo; >> >> [cube] >> s0_skydome_image = /home/david/linux/wallpapers/1680x1050/78638- >> KDE_Desktop3.5.png >> s0_skydome = true >> s0_active_opacity = 40.000000 >> s0_skydome_animated = false >> >> [cubeaddon] >> s0_intensity = 0.640000 >> s0_deformation = 1 >> s0_sphere_aspect = 0.100000 >> s0_cylinder_manual_only = true >> s0_ground_size = 0.300000 >> s0_auto_zoom = false >> >> [wobbly] >> s0_spring_k = 6.000000 >> s0_friction = 2.500000 >> >> [expo] >> >> [rotate] >> s0_zoom = 0.400000 >> s0_timestep = 1.000000 >> s0_speed = 6.000000 >> >> [shift] >> as_terminate_button = Disabled >> >> ? ? ? ?I can look and tell that there are differences, but not being more familiar >> with what the individual settings are, I'm shooting in the dark. Anybody see >> anything that would explain the differences in behavior? This may be an >> openSuSE issue. I have been running 8.2 on Arch Linux for a couple of months >> without any of these issues. I don't know if that helps, but I really like the >> way 8.2 runs and I would like to solve the issues I am having on opensuse. >> >> ? ? ? ?What do the compiz gurus suggest I try? >> >> >> -- >> David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. >> Rankin Law Firm, PLLC >> 510 Ochiltree Street >> Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 >> Telephone: (936) 715-9333 >> Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 >> <a href="http://www.rankinlawfirm.com" target="_blank">www.rankinlawfirm.com</a> >> _______________________________________________ >> compiz mailing list >> <a href="mailto:compiz@lists.freedesktop.org">compiz@lists.freedesktop.org</a> >> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/compiz" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/compiz</a> >> > > > > -- > Sam Spilsbury > -- Sam Spilsbury ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 05:47:14 -0500 From: "David C. Rankin" <<a href="mailto:drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com">drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: [compiz] 8.2 behaving weird on openSuSE 10.3 & 11.0 To: <a href="mailto:compiz@lists.freedesktop.org">compiz@lists.freedesktop.org</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:200908190547.14418.drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com">200908190547.14418.drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com</a>> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Tuesday 18 August 2009 07:01:30 pm you wrote: > Apologies, > > Forwarding to the list. > > PS. This list is deprecated. Please use the Compiz Community list > instead (<a href="mailto:comm@lists.compiz.org">comm@lists.compiz.org</a> IIRC) > <snip> > > -- > > Sam Spilsbury > Thanks Sam, I found a list at <a href="mailto:community@lists.compiz-fusion.org">community@lists.compiz-fusion.org</a>, is that the correct one or just another stray? Also FYI, the "Team" link on the compiz site goes to 404. (Now I know the shake-up wasn't that bad...:-) I'll test with blur and see if the nvidia downclocking "feature" is catching me when I get to the office. That seems likely though. On my Arch Linux box where 8.2 works great, I have an 8800 GT that seems stuck in full-power mode. If I shut the box down and let it cool for a few hours, then restart, card fan speed is fine for a few hours, then the fan speed goes back through the roof. Temps are not the problem. CPU temps never get above 38 deg. C, drive temps are: 05:40 archangel:~> hdtemp /dev/sda: ST3500630AS: 35?C /dev/sdc: ST3500630AS: 40?C /dev/sdb: ST3750330AS: 37?C /dev/sdd: ST3750330AS: 38?C GPU temp reports 67 deg C, and case ambient (reported by the nvidia card is at 50 c.) My guess says it looks like an nvidia driver temp reporting issue there. But there isn't a bit of delay in compiz and glxgears frame rates show greater than 10K fps. If on opensuse downclocking *is* the case, "Irony" wins. It will be a case of (1) With compiz, my card downclocks on opensuse until it is asleep, (2) without opensuse, it sounds like a jet engine preparing for takeoff. And with ATI, if downclocking doesn't work, you can fry eggs on my laptop's palm rest. Go figure... (I wish they would just opensource the drivers so competent programmers could fix the mess.) Thanks for your help. You guys keep up the great work. 8.2 is really a fine piece of code. I can't wait until 9 beta. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 <a href="http://www.rankinlawfirm.com" target="_blank">www.rankinlawfirm.com</a> ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ compiz mailing list <a href="mailto:compiz@lists.freedesktop.org">compiz@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/compiz" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/compiz</a> End of compiz Digest, Vol 42, Issue 3 ************************************* </blockquote></div>