[CREATE] [LGF-LGA] Ok, let's start with a website

[Camille Bissuel]

I completely agree with a.l.e ...
We don't want to recreate the wheel, we want to build a motor.
It was the whole point of my BoF session at LGM 2010. If you want to listen
arguments, please read my presentation :
http://www.yagraph.org/images/LGM/what-about-a-lgf.svg (to look at in
Firefox)

So... some peoples like me and a.l.e fell the *necessity* of such a project,
and we will do it.

And, we have to start somewhere to make this "realidad" happen. A website is
a good starting point.

@a.l.e : Maybe we can contribute to Anwiki... we don't have a very short
deadline.
We have to investigate more on Aïki too. Does someone can do the same "nice
points" / "less nice points" list for Aïki ?

Thanks,
-- yagraph





2010/8/13 jon at rejon.org <jon at rejon.org>

> If it ain't broke, then don't fix it...is my position. I'm going to
> focus on realidad.
>
> Jon
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:16 PM, a.l.e <ale.comp_06 at xox.ch> wrote:
> > hi jon,
> >
> >> This whole thread...what's the addage about painting a bikeshed? It
> >> underscores my point about distractions from accomplishing a mission.
> >> Are we here to make sites or a Foundation, both often covers for
> >> trying to raise money to raise money, or are we trying to get
> >> creative apps to work together better and build a flourishing
> >> creative community?
> >>
> >> Also, I will point out the irony that all of our communication
> >> happens on the create list and wiki.
> >>
> >> What's the point again? Or rather where is the concrete realidad to
> >> this thread?
> >>
> >> Ok, im going to go back to getting LGM day at Foss.asia lined up, LGM
> >> book, and then get sponsors for both...
> >
> > i can only give my point of view:
> >
> > - it's about an association not a foundation
> >
> > - this association should be a tool to promote the free software
> >  graphics tools in education, art and graphic industry
> >
> > - this association should take over the promotion coordination work
> >  among free software projects in the graphics field
> >
> > - this association should make sure that a LGM happens
> >
> > - this association should make sure that some sort of certification is
> >  developed which applies for the free software graphics tools.
> >
> > i have the feeling that CREATE, in its current form, can't manage most
> > of those tasks.
> >
> >
> > btw, i'm more than happy if we can have a foundation, maybe covering a
> > broader field than the graphics software, that we can work with / rely
> > upon.
> > but, in my views, rightt now, we don't have a financial problem to focus
> > on: we have to find out how to get the professional world to use our
> > software. once they are REALLY using our applications, we will have to
> > worry, how to collect some money from them!
> >
> >
> > and, as yuval pointed, the biggest problem with CREATE is its name/url:
> >
> > - i'm not happy with having a sub-domain for it
> >
> > - we can't have create.org
> >
> > - it's too close to a suite which already leads the largest parts of
> >  the market we want to take over.
> >
> > (well, in an ideal world i would love to have the CREATE name... it's
> > a wonderful name. much better than the one used for that suite. and much
> > better than LG, too. but it's not available.)
> >
> >
> > now, what's the point of starting by creating a website? no idea, but i
> > guess that we have to start from somewhere and a website is a bit like
> > a club house: a nice place where you feel welcome.
> > we are  discussing about this since a couple of years and it's nice to
> > see the work start!
> >
> >
> > just my 2.5c.
> >
> > ciao
> >
> > a.l.e
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > p.s.: i was not aware that CREATE had activities outside of the
> > graphics field. nice to know!
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>
>
>
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