2008/11/11 Jon Phillips <<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a>> <div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 16:53 -0500, Louis Desjardins wrote: > 2008/11/11 Jon Phillips <<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a>> >         On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 09:21 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: >         > Hi, >         > >         > Anders Brander wrote: >         > > On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 13:18 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: >         > >> I don't think that most people are there for the >         presentations, so I >         > >> don't think "packing out" the schedule is important. It's >         important in >         > >> conferences where attendees pay a lot of money to go, and >         need to >         > >> justify the expense to their bosses by pointing out all >         the great >         > >> content that's scheduled. We're not in that situation. >         > > >         > > Well. We shouldn't have lots of presentations, with the >         sole purpose of >         > > selling the idea to our bosses. But; I don't see why we >         should avoid >         > > people talking about their small and specialized projects. >         Some of the >         > > talks I enjoyed most at LGM2008 were some of the very >         specialized talks. >         > >         > Lightning talks! This is exactly the format small >         specialised projects >         > need - you get 5 minutes (an eternity!) to present what your >         project is, >         > some of the cool stuff people do with it, and what you're >         interested in >         > getting at the conference (Users? Hackers? Features? >         Feedback?) >         > >         > The additional advantage of lightning talks is that you can >         do say 2 >         > hours of them, and have 25 presentations, thus keeping lots >         of those >         > small projects happy. A third advantage: if one comes along >         that few >         > people are interested in, it's like the commercial break, >         they'll stick >         > around & watch it anyway, because in 5 minutes there's >         another one coming. >         > >         > Cheers, >         > Dave. > > >         Totally. > >         Louis, at the end of the day, you are organizing this, but in >         the end we >         have to ask ourselves what we our communities are getting out >         of this: > >         1.) collaboration time specific to our projects >         2.) collaboration time between projects >         3.) presenting to all about these collaborations >         4.) discovering new projects > > >         And, I would rank our conference priorities in that order and >         time usage >         that way. So, I wonder if we can do that: > >         day 1: collaborate within our projects >         day 2: presentations from major projects, set talks >         day 3: more presentations about collaboration, major talks + >         lightning >         talks >         day 4: collaboration unconference day > >         But, I still really think that day 4 could be integrated into >         day 3. > >         As I said, Louis, you are taking on the big burden, and you >         have done >         this before so you know what you are doing...just giving my >         few >         cents/eurocents... > > Great! > > I like pretty much the "what we our communities are getting out of > this" and the "day 1-2-3-4" breakdown parts! :) > > Jon! You got it! ;) > > I suggest we stick with a one-track, 4-day conf/unconf, starting on > Wednesday, closing on Saturday. Leaving lots of room for team work and > discussions within/among teams. Plus, new projects, fresh ideas! Some > small, some larger. And new people too! Man! This will be fun! I think > also that the discussion on how we fill the schedule itself can > continue with more input as we approach the LGM. Basically, we want > things to happen and for this we need flexibility. > > You are probably right we could tighten this up into 3 days but I > think it will be more flexible with 4, so I think I prefer flexibility > at this point. Some people leave early in those confs... some arrive > late... no problem! We take you as you come! :) One single day at LGM > can change someone's life... imagine 4 days!!! > > My main concern for now is establishing and securing the dates. If we > like the 4-day event, I would then propose May 6-7-8-9. I can leave > that open until the end of the week and make a final announcement > about the dates on Friday. How does that sound? > > Cheers! > > Louis </div></div>Teams are really quiet right now. How about we give them until week from now to lock in those dates? WED NOV 17.</blockquote><div> Yep! Let there be a week. Louis </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Good! Jon <div class="Ih2E3d"> > > >         Jon > >         -- >         Jon Phillips >         San Francisco, CA + Guangzhou + Beijing >         GLOBAL +1.415.830.3884 >         CHINA +86.1.360.282.8624 >         <a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a> >         <a href="http://www.rejon.org" target="_blank">http://www.rejon.org</a> >         IM/skype: kidproto >         Jabber: <a href="mailto:rejon@gristle.org">rejon@gristle.org</a> >         IRC: <a href="mailto:rejon@irc.freenode.net">rejon@irc.freenode.net</a> > > > >         _______________________________________________ >         CREATE mailing list >         <a href="mailto:CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org">CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org</a> >         <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create</a> > </div>-- <div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA + Guangzhou + Beijing GLOBAL +1.415.830.3884 CHINA +86.1.360.282.8624 <a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a> <a href="http://www.rejon.org" target="_blank">http://www.rejon.org</a> IM/skype: kidproto Jabber: <a href="mailto:rejon@gristle.org">rejon@gristle.org</a> IRC: <a href="mailto:rejon@irc.freenode.net">rejon@irc.freenode.net</a> </div></div></blockquote></div>