2008/11/11 Jon Phillips <<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a>> <div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d">On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 09:21 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > Anders Brander wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 13:18 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: > >> I don't think that most people are there for the presentations, so I > >> don't think "packing out" the schedule is important. It's important in > >> conferences where attendees pay a lot of money to go, and need to > >> justify the expense to their bosses by pointing out all the great > >> content that's scheduled. We're not in that situation. > > > > Well. We shouldn't have lots of presentations, with the sole purpose of > > selling the idea to our bosses. But; I don't see why we should avoid > > people talking about their small and specialized projects. Some of the > > talks I enjoyed most at LGM2008 were some of the very specialized talks. > > Lightning talks! This is exactly the format small specialised projects > need - you get 5 minutes (an eternity!) to present what your project is, > some of the cool stuff people do with it, and what you're interested in > getting at the conference (Users? Hackers? Features? Feedback?) > > The additional advantage of lightning talks is that you can do say 2 > hours of them, and have 25 presentations, thus keeping lots of those > small projects happy. A third advantage: if one comes along that few > people are interested in, it's like the commercial break, they'll stick > around & watch it anyway, because in 5 minutes there's another one coming. > > Cheers, > Dave. </div>Totally. Louis, at the end of the day, you are organizing this, but in the end we have to ask ourselves what we our communities are getting out of this: 1.) collaboration time specific to our projects 2.) collaboration time between projects 3.) presenting to all about these collaborations 4.) discovering new projects And, I would rank our conference priorities in that order and time usage that way. So, I wonder if we can do that: day 1: collaborate within our projects day 2: presentations from major projects, set talks day 3: more presentations about collaboration, major talks + lightning talks day 4: collaboration unconference day But, I still really think that day 4 could be integrated into day 3. As I said, Louis, you are taking on the big burden, and you have done this before so you know what you are doing...just giving my few cents/eurocents...</blockquote><div> Great! I like pretty much the "what we our communities are getting out of this" and the "day 1-2-3-4" breakdown parts! :) Jon! You got it! ;) I suggest we stick with a one-track, 4-day conf/unconf, starting on Wednesday, closing on Saturday. Leaving lots of room for team work and discussions within/among teams. Plus, new projects, fresh ideas! Some small, some larger. And new people too! Man! This will be fun! I think also that the discussion on how we fill the schedule itself can continue with more input as we approach the LGM. Basically, we want things to happen and for this we need flexibility. You are probably right we could tighten this up into 3 days but I think it will be more flexible with 4, so I think I prefer flexibility at this point. Some people leave early in those confs... some arrive late... no problem! We take you as you come! :) One single day at LGM can change someone's life... imagine 4 days!!! My main concern for now is establishing and securing the dates. If we like the 4-day event, I would then propose May 6-7-8-9. I can leave that open until the end of the week and make a final announcement about the dates on Friday. How does that sound? Cheers! Louis </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Jon <div class="Ih2E3d"> -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA + Guangzhou + Beijing GLOBAL +1.415.830.3884 CHINA +86.1.360.282.8624 <a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a> <a href="http://www.rejon.org" target="_blank">http://www.rejon.org</a> IM/skype: kidproto Jabber: <a href="mailto:rejon@gristle.org">rejon@gristle.org</a> IRC: <a href="mailto:rejon@irc.freenode.net">rejon@irc.freenode.net</a> </div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">_______________________________________________ CREATE mailing list <a href="mailto:CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org">CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create</a> </div></div></blockquote></div>