2008/11/11 Louis Desjardins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:louis.desjardins@gmail.com">louis.desjardins@gmail.com</a>></span><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">2008/11/11 Jon Phillips <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org" target="_blank">jon@rejon.org</a>></span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
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<div><div></div><div>On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 16:53 -0500, Louis Desjardins wrote:<br>
> 2008/11/11 Jon Phillips <<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org" target="_blank">jon@rejon.org</a>><br>
> On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 09:21 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:<br>
> > Hi,<br>
> ><br>
> > Anders Brander wrote:<br>
> > > On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 13:18 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:<br>
> > >> I don't think that most people are there for the<br>
> presentations, so I<br>
> > >> don't think "packing out" the schedule is important. It's<br>
> important in<br>
> > >> conferences where attendees pay a lot of money to go, and<br>
> need to<br>
> > >> justify the expense to their bosses by pointing out all<br>
> the great<br>
> > >> content that's scheduled. We're not in that situation.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Well. We shouldn't have lots of presentations, with the<br>
> sole purpose of<br>
> > > selling the idea to our bosses. But; I don't see why we<br>
> should avoid<br>
> > > people talking about their small and specialized projects.<br>
> Some of the<br>
> > > talks I enjoyed most at LGM2008 were some of the very<br>
> specialized talks.<br>
> ><br>
> > Lightning talks! This is exactly the format small<br>
> specialised projects<br>
> > need - you get 5 minutes (an eternity!) to present what your<br>
> project is,<br>
> > some of the cool stuff people do with it, and what you're<br>
> interested in<br>
> > getting at the conference (Users? Hackers? Features?<br>
> Feedback?)<br>
> ><br>
> > The additional advantage of lightning talks is that you can<br>
> do say 2<br>
> > hours of them, and have 25 presentations, thus keeping lots<br>
> of those<br>
> > small projects happy. A third advantage: if one comes along<br>
> that few<br>
> > people are interested in, it's like the commercial break,<br>
> they'll stick<br>
> > around & watch it anyway, because in 5 minutes there's<br>
> another one coming.<br>
> ><br>
> > Cheers,<br>
> > Dave.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Totally.<br>
><br>
> Louis, at the end of the day, you are organizing this, but in<br>
> the end we<br>
> have to ask ourselves what we our communities are getting out<br>
> of this:<br>
><br>
> 1.) collaboration time specific to our projects<br>
> 2.) collaboration time between projects<br>
> 3.) presenting to all about these collaborations<br>
> 4.) discovering new projects<br>
><br>
><br>
> And, I would rank our conference priorities in that order and<br>
> time usage<br>
> that way. So, I wonder if we can do that:<br>
><br>
> day 1: collaborate within our projects<br>
> day 2: presentations from major projects, set talks<br>
> day 3: more presentations about collaboration, major talks +<br>
> lightning<br>
> talks<br>
> day 4: collaboration unconference day<br>
><br>
> But, I still really think that day 4 could be integrated into<br>
> day 3.<br>
><br>
> As I said, Louis, you are taking on the big burden, and you<br>
> have done<br>
> this before so you know what you are doing...just giving my<br>
> few<br>
> cents/eurocents...<br>
><br>
> Great!<br>
><br>
> I like pretty much the "what we our communities are getting out of<br>
> this" and the "day 1-2-3-4" breakdown parts! :)<br>
><br>
> Jon! You got it! ;)<br>
><br>
> I suggest we stick with a one-track, 4-day conf/unconf, starting on<br>
> Wednesday, closing on Saturday. Leaving lots of room for team work and<br>
> discussions within/among teams. Plus, new projects, fresh ideas! Some<br>
> small, some larger. And new people too! Man! This will be fun! I think<br>
> also that the discussion on how we fill the schedule itself can<br>
> continue with more input as we approach the LGM. Basically, we want<br>
> things to happen and for this we need flexibility.<br>
><br>
> You are probably right we could tighten this up into 3 days but I<br>
> think it will be more flexible with 4, so I think I prefer flexibility<br>
> at this point. Some people leave early in those confs... some arrive<br>
> late... no problem! We take you as you come! :) One single day at LGM<br>
> can change someone's life... imagine 4 days!!!<br>
><br>
> My main concern for now is establishing and securing the dates. If we<br>
> like the 4-day event, I would then propose May 6-7-8-9. I can leave<br>
> that open until the end of the week and make a final announcement<br>
> about the dates on Friday. How does that sound?<br>
><br>
> Cheers!<br>
><br>
> Louis<br>
<br>
</div></div>Teams are really quiet right now. How about we give them until week from<br>
now to lock in those dates? WED NOV 17.</blockquote></div></div><div><br>Yep! Let there be a week.</div></div></blockquote><div><br>Only to remind everyone we're approaching Wednesday...<br><br>:)<br><br>Louis<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><br><font color="#888888"><br>Louis<br></font></div><div class="Ih2E3d"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Good!<br>
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Jon<br>
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> Jon<br>
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