<div>Thanks all suggestions about this idea, thank you everyone! </div> <div>i try my best get visa to Belgium these days in China, wish i can get visa and see friends,then interview face to face.</div> <div>regards!</div> <div>Wang Lingzheng </div> <div>2010/4/27, <a href="mailto:create-request@lists.freedesktop.org">create-request@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <<a href="mailto:create-request@lists.freedesktop.org">create-request@lists.freedesktop.org</a>>: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Send CREATE mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:create@lists.freedesktop.org">create@lists.freedesktop.org</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:create-request@lists.freedesktop.org">create-request@lists.freedesktop.org</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:create-owner@lists.freedesktop.org">create-owner@lists.freedesktop.org</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CREATE digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: publish book about LGM meeting (Jon Phillips) 2. Re: publish book about LGM meeting (Jon Phillips) 3. Re: panel discussion (proposal): Web apps (Schrijver) 4. Re: publish book about LGM meeting (Schrijver) 5. off topic: decentralised social networking (Schrijver) 6. Re: off topic: decentralised social networking (Jon Phillips) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:30:56 -0700 From: Jon Phillips <<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a>> Subject: Re: [CREATE] publish book about LGM meeting To: Mario Behling <<a href="mailto:mb@mariobehling.de">mb@mariobehling.de</a>> Cc: florica <<a href="mailto:florica@fabricatorz.com">florica@fabricatorz.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:create@lists.freedesktop.org">create@lists.freedesktop.org</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:u2td21bc5f51004261630s529e4b60tc2c249842e17ddf6@mail.gmail.com">u2td21bc5f51004261630s529e4b60tc2c249842e17ddf6@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Totally. Maybe the thing todo is to start a wikipage about this book. Something like Libre Graphics Meeting 2010 Proceedings Are they proceedings or something else? I like the idea of making it more of interviews and unique content. I'd love to help with this and get my company to help too. Here, I made a wiki page to push this forward. Please add your thoughts. <a href="http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Libre_Graphics_Meeting_2010_Book">http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Libre_Graphics_Meeting_2010_Book</a> Also, femke, what about flossmanuals? And some form of book sprint? I had a beer with Adam last week who was stranded in SF... Jon On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Mario Behling <<a href="mailto:mb@mariobehling.de">mb@mariobehling.de</a>> wrote: > Hi, > > a book sounds great. We would like to join in. We have resources to > translate to Vietnamese and I would be interested to publish a version > in Vietnam. > > - Mario > > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jon Phillips <<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a>> wrote: >> Yes, this would all be very cool! I can vouch for Wang Lingzheng's >> work and know her project in Beijing. >> >> I would love to see this project happen. Yes, totally. Free free free. >> >> Jon >> >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Craig Bradney <<a href="mailto:cbradney@zip.com.au">cbradney@zip.com.au</a>> wrote: >>> On 4/23/10 1:10 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> 2010/4/23 lingzheng wang <<a href="mailto:wanglingzheng000@gmail.com">wanglingzheng000@gmail.com</a>>: >>>> >>>>> ? ? ?can i ?create one book about LGM meeting in June? ?i mean need consider >>>>> copyright and other things etc. welcome for every one's suggestion. >>>>> >>>> If the book is licensed with something from <a href="http://freedomdefined.org">freedomdefined.org</a>, and >>>> uses the freely-licensed images that will inevitably be posted to >>>> Flickr and elsewhere, I would say that this would be a very welcome >>>> contribution :-) >>>> >>>> >>>>> There are ?interesting pictures and words in this book in my opinion, i can >>>>> write in English and Chinese after ?i interview designers who join LGM >>>>> meeting, then introduce opensource graphics to Chinese designers. >>>>> >>>> I am happy to help you improve the English text in the book; what >>>> software will you use to make it? If you use a public version control >>>> system, the book could be made collaboratively :-) >>>> >>>> >>> I think you know the correct answer to that one... produce the source in >>> a version system .. and convert the final text into Scribus >>> >>> Craig >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CREATE mailing list >>> <a href="mailto:CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org">CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org</a> >>> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create</a> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jon Phillips >> <a href="http://rejon.org/">http://rejon.org/</a> >> <a href="http://fabricatorz.com/">http://fabricatorz.com/</a> >> <a href="http://status.net/">http://status.net/</a> >> <a href="http://rejon.status.net">http://rejon.status.net</a> + skype: kidproto >> +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) >> +86.134.3957.2035 (china) > > -- > _______________________________ > > Mario Behling > <a href="mailto:mb@lxde.org">mb@lxde.org</a> > Vietnam +84 1286380690 > International +49 30 88764502 > Fax +4932121218971 > XMPP: <a href="mailto:mariobehling@jabber.ccc.de">mariobehling@jabber.ccc.de</a> > <a href="http://mariobehling.de">http://mariobehling.de</a> > -- Jon Phillips <a href="http://rejon.org/">http://rejon.org/</a> <a href="http://fabricatorz.com/">http://fabricatorz.com/</a> <a href="http://status.net/">http://status.net/</a> <a href="http://rejon.status.net">http://rejon.status.net</a> + skype: kidproto +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) +86.134.3957.2035 (china) ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:32:20 -0700 From: Jon Phillips <<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a>> Subject: Re: [CREATE] publish book about LGM meeting To: Mario Behling <<a href="mailto:mb@mariobehling.de">mb@mariobehling.de</a>> Cc: florica <<a href="mailto:florica@fabricatorz.com">florica@fabricatorz.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:create@lists.freedesktop.org">create@lists.freedesktop.org</a>, Christopher Adams <<a href="mailto:christopher.lee.adams@gmail.com">christopher.lee.adams@gmail.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:i2xd21bc5f51004261632v85e24135x5ca5f81b78901907@mail.gmail.com">i2xd21bc5f51004261632v85e24135x5ca5f81b78901907@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I'm also adding Christopher Adams who published <a href="http://freesouls.cc">http://freesouls.cc</a> with Joi Ito last year. Would love to have his input on, but also don't want to overload this process to the point of failure in too many bodies. Jon On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Jon Phillips <<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a>> wrote: > Totally. Maybe the thing todo is to start a wikipage about this book. > Something like Libre Graphics Meeting 2010 Proceedings > > Are they proceedings or something else? > > I like the idea of making it more of interviews and unique content. > I'd love to help with this and get my company to help too. > > Here, I made a wiki page to push this forward. Please add your thoughts. > > <a href="http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Libre_Graphics_Meeting_2010_Book">http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Libre_Graphics_Meeting_2010_Book</a> > > Also, femke, what about flossmanuals? And some form of book sprint? I > had a beer with Adam last week who was stranded in SF... > > Jon > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Mario Behling <<a href="mailto:mb@mariobehling.de">mb@mariobehling.de</a>> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> a book sounds great. We would like to join in. We have resources to >> translate to Vietnamese and I would be interested to publish a version >> in Vietnam. >> >> - Mario >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jon Phillips <<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a>> wrote: >>> Yes, this would all be very cool! I can vouch for Wang Lingzheng's >>> work and know her project in Beijing. >>> >>> I would love to see this project happen. Yes, totally. Free free free. >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Craig Bradney <<a href="mailto:cbradney@zip.com.au">cbradney@zip.com.au</a>> wrote: >>>> On 4/23/10 1:10 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> 2010/4/23 lingzheng wang <<a href="mailto:wanglingzheng000@gmail.com">wanglingzheng000@gmail.com</a>>: >>>>> >>>>>> ? ? ?can i ?create one book about LGM meeting in June? ?i mean need consider >>>>>> copyright and other things etc. welcome for every one's suggestion. >>>>>> >>>>> If the book is licensed with something from <a href="http://freedomdefined.org">freedomdefined.org</a>, and >>>>> uses the freely-licensed images that will inevitably be posted to >>>>> Flickr and elsewhere, I would say that this would be a very welcome >>>>> contribution :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> There are ?interesting pictures and words in this book in my opinion, i can >>>>>> write in English and Chinese after ?i interview designers who join LGM >>>>>> meeting, then introduce opensource graphics to Chinese designers. >>>>>> >>>>> I am happy to help you improve the English text in the book; what >>>>> software will you use to make it? If you use a public version control >>>>> system, the book could be made collaboratively :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I think you know the correct answer to that one... produce the source in >>>> a version system .. and convert the final text into Scribus >>>> >>>> Craig >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> CREATE mailing list >>>> <a href="mailto:CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org">CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org</a> >>>> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create</a> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jon Phillips >>> <a href="http://rejon.org/">http://rejon.org/</a> >>> <a href="http://fabricatorz.com/">http://fabricatorz.com/</a> >>> <a href="http://status.net/">http://status.net/</a> >>> <a href="http://rejon.status.net">http://rejon.status.net</a> + skype: kidproto >>> +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) >>> +86.134.3957.2035 (china) >> >> -- >> _______________________________ >> >> Mario Behling >> <a href="mailto:mb@lxde.org">mb@lxde.org</a> >> Vietnam +84 1286380690 >> International +49 30 88764502 >> Fax +4932121218971 >> XMPP: <a href="mailto:mariobehling@jabber.ccc.de">mariobehling@jabber.ccc.de</a> >> <a href="http://mariobehling.de">http://mariobehling.de</a> >> > > > > -- > Jon Phillips > <a href="http://rejon.org/">http://rejon.org/</a> > <a href="http://fabricatorz.com/">http://fabricatorz.com/</a> > <a href="http://status.net/">http://status.net/</a> > <a href="http://rejon.status.net">http://rejon.status.net</a> + skype: kidproto > +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) > +86.134.3957.2035 (china) > -- Jon Phillips <a href="http://rejon.org/">http://rejon.org/</a> <a href="http://fabricatorz.com/">http://fabricatorz.com/</a> <a href="http://status.net/">http://status.net/</a> <a href="http://rejon.status.net">http://rejon.status.net</a> + skype: kidproto +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) +86.134.3957.2035 (china) ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 01:57:33 +0200 From: Schrijver <<a href="mailto:eric@authoritism.net">eric@authoritism.net</a>> Subject: Re: [CREATE] panel discussion (proposal): Web apps To: Create ML <<a href="mailto:create@lists.freedesktop.org">create@lists.freedesktop.org</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:AD9B5083-ED48-423A-BA6D-AE8CD2C80D45@authoritism.net">AD9B5083-ED48-423A-BA6D-AE8CD2C80D45@authoritism.net</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Very good idea imho. There is a shift from the desktop towards these web apps, especially since many of them are free?the irony :( Though in the world of web apps free software already has the unique selling point that you can run many of the desktop programs headless on your webserver?try doing that with a commercial content creation program! I?ve seen this done with fontforge a couple of times now; it powers the conversion engine for cufon, is used in osp?s Nancy. I think wikipedia used to use inkscape for converting svg, and I read of people using Open Office to generate pdf?s serverside. But web apps with GUI?s are of course a bit of a tougher nut to crack? Is there such a thing as a HTML+CSS+JS based port of GTK? Eric Schrijver Op 17 apr 2010, om 10:35 heeft Kai-Uwe Behrmann het volgende geschreven: > Am 15.04.10, 19:22 -0500 schrieb Nathan Willis: >> I'd like to suggest a topic for a panel discussion session at LGM -- Open >> Source Graphics and the Web App. Jon Phillips touched on this topic in his >> talk last year in Montreal; I'm interested in asking some specific questions >> that relate to how the FOSS graphics suite can or should react to the RIA >> movement (which is mostly non-free). In addition to Picnik and the other >> well-known services, Google Docs just added a Drawing app, so it isn't going >> away. > > Would networked collaboration a la <a href="http://verse.blender.org/">http://verse.blender.org/</a> or > interfaces like CUPS' <a href="http://localhost:631/">http://localhost:631/</a> fit your panel? > > kind regards > Kai-Uwe Behrmann > -- > developing for colour management <a href="http://www.behrmann.name">www.behrmann.name</a> + <a href="http://www.oyranos.org">www.oyranos.org</a> > > _______________________________________________ > CREATE mailing list > <a href="mailto:CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org">CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create</a> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 01:57:55 +0200 From: Schrijver <<a href="mailto:eric@authoritism.net">eric@authoritism.net</a>> Subject: Re: [CREATE] publish book about LGM meeting To: Create ML <<a href="mailto:create@lists.freedesktop.org">create@lists.freedesktop.org</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:20E0E964-60AB-4E17-B572-87E01870E28C@authoritism.net">20E0E964-60AB-4E17-B572-87E01870E28C@authoritism.net</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Awesome. Craig said: >>>>> I think you know the correct answer to that one... produce the source in >>>>> a version system .. and convert the final text into Scribus This is for the wiki, I suppose, but do you (or anyone) have any experience using scribus in this way? I think it is quite interesting I am especially interested in scripting scribus so that it can ?compile? the versioned source files to a layout automatically. You could call a scribus script on the post-commit hook of your versioning system in many cases I guess Latex would be simpler for such a thing?but that has its limitations? -- Eric Schrijver Op 27 apr 2010, om 01:32 heeft Jon Phillips het volgende geschreven: > I'm also adding Christopher Adams who published <a href="http://freesouls.cc">http://freesouls.cc</a> > with Joi Ito last year. Would love to have his input on, but also > don't want to overload this process to the point of failure in too > many bodies. > > Jon > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Jon Phillips <<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a>> wrote: >> Totally. Maybe the thing todo is to start a wikipage about this book. >> Something like Libre Graphics Meeting 2010 Proceedings >> >> Are they proceedings or something else? >> >> I like the idea of making it more of interviews and unique content. >> I'd love to help with this and get my company to help too. >> >> Here, I made a wiki page to push this forward. Please add your thoughts. >> >> <a href="http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Libre_Graphics_Meeting_2010_Book">http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Libre_Graphics_Meeting_2010_Book</a> >> >> Also, femke, what about flossmanuals? And some form of book sprint? I >> had a beer with Adam last week who was stranded in SF... >> >> Jon >> >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Mario Behling <<a href="mailto:mb@mariobehling.de">mb@mariobehling.de</a>> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> a book sounds great. We would like to join in. We have resources to >>> translate to Vietnamese and I would be interested to publish a version >>> in Vietnam. >>> >>> - Mario >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jon Phillips <<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a>> wrote: >>>> Yes, this would all be very cool! I can vouch for Wang Lingzheng's >>>> work and know her project in Beijing. >>>> >>>> I would love to see this project happen. Yes, totally. Free free free. >>>> >>>> Jon >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Craig Bradney <<a href="mailto:cbradney@zip.com.au">cbradney@zip.com.au</a>> wrote: >>>>> On 4/23/10 1:10 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/4/23 lingzheng wang <<a href="mailto:wanglingzheng000@gmail.com">wanglingzheng000@gmail.com</a>>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> can i create one book about LGM meeting in June? i mean need consider >>>>>>> copyright and other things etc. welcome for every one's suggestion. >>>>>>> >>>>>> If the book is licensed with something from <a href="http://freedomdefined.org">freedomdefined.org</a>, and >>>>>> uses the freely-licensed images that will inevitably be posted to >>>>>> Flickr and elsewhere, I would say that this would be a very welcome >>>>>> contribution :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> There are interesting pictures and words in this book in my opinion, i can >>>>>>> write in English and Chinese after i interview designers who join LGM >>>>>>> meeting, then introduce opensource graphics to Chinese designers. >>>>>>> >>>>>> I am happy to help you improve the English text in the book; what >>>>>> software will you use to make it? If you use a public version control >>>>>> system, the book could be made collaboratively :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I think you know the correct answer to that one... produce the source in >>>>> a version system .. and convert the final text into Scribus >>>>> >>>>> Craig >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> CREATE mailing list >>>>> <a href="mailto:CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org">CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org</a> >>>>> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create</a> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jon Phillips >>>> <a href="http://rejon.org/">http://rejon.org/</a> >>>> <a href="http://fabricatorz.com/">http://fabricatorz.com/</a> >>>> <a href="http://status.net/">http://status.net/</a> >>>> <a href="http://rejon.status.net">http://rejon.status.net</a> + skype: kidproto >>>> +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) >>>> +86.134.3957.2035 (china) >>> >>> -- >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> Mario Behling >>> <a href="mailto:mb@lxde.org">mb@lxde.org</a> >>> Vietnam +84 1286380690 >>> International +49 30 88764502 >>> Fax +4932121218971 >>> XMPP: <a href="mailto:mariobehling@jabber.ccc.de">mariobehling@jabber.ccc.de</a> >>> <a href="http://mariobehling.de">http://mariobehling.de</a> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jon Phillips >> <a href="http://rejon.org/">http://rejon.org/</a> >> <a href="http://fabricatorz.com/">http://fabricatorz.com/</a> >> <a href="http://status.net/">http://status.net/</a> >> <a href="http://rejon.status.net">http://rejon.status.net</a> + skype: kidproto >> +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) >> +86.134.3957.2035 (china) >> > > > > -- > Jon Phillips > <a href="http://rejon.org/">http://rejon.org/</a> > <a href="http://fabricatorz.com/">http://fabricatorz.com/</a> > <a href="http://status.net/">http://status.net/</a> > <a href="http://rejon.status.net">http://rejon.status.net</a> + skype: kidproto > +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) > +86.134.3957.2035 (china) > _______________________________________________ > CREATE mailing list > <a href="mailto:CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org">CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create</a> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 02:13:33 +0200 From: Schrijver <<a href="mailto:eric@authoritism.net">eric@authoritism.net</a>> Subject: [CREATE] off topic: decentralised social networking To: Create ML <<a href="mailto:create@lists.freedesktop.org">create@lists.freedesktop.org</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:07F0765A-8EE7-4459-9A66-FE6FB8FA61EF@authoritism.net">07F0765A-8EE7-4459-9A66-FE6FB8FA61EF@authoritism.net</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Since I became social network junky I worry a lot about the privacy implications of such centralised non-free software. So I figured social networking should be distributed. And also figured that this would be a ludicrous hassle to implement. But last week I came across the onesocialweb project. Their code went online last week (under the apache license). They rigged openfire XMPP (instant messaging) servers so that they have social functionality. You set up your on social network on such a server, and these servers can subsequently connect into what they call ?the federation?. Distributed, connected! <a href="http://onesocialweb.org">http://onesocialweb.org</a> Since the release the first few nodes have already gone online. I just wanted to point to this project because I think this and similar software can only become something if we start playing with it. Otherwise it just stays a lab project or thought experiment? &social networking is here to stay, and in spite of common scepsis I believe it can be quite stimulating for creatives. Cheers, Eric Schrijver ps found this via the comments on the proposals at <a href="http://wingolog.org/archives/2010/04/10/towards-a-gnu-autonomous-cloud">http://wingolog.org/archives/2010/04/10/towards-a-gnu-autonomous-cloud</a> much more interesting links in the comments including <a href="http://www.isoc-ny.org/?p=1338">http://www.isoc-ny.org/?p=1338</a> Eben Moglen; Freedom in the cloud ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:40:50 -0700 From: Jon Phillips <<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a>> Subject: Re: [CREATE] off topic: decentralised social networking To: Schrijver <<a href="mailto:eric@authoritism.net">eric@authoritism.net</a>> Cc: Create ML <<a href="mailto:create@lists.freedesktop.org">create@lists.freedesktop.org</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:v2pd21bc5f51004261740vcdc0f0e6j34741452de315e7b@mail.gmail.com">v2pd21bc5f51004261740vcdc0f0e6j34741452de315e7b@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 <topPost /><offTopic /> I haven't seen this. Looks like its funded by vodafone (big company!). You've seen what I'm working on, right: <a href="http://status.net">http://status.net</a> and using the <a href="http://ostatus.org">http://ostatus.org</a> protocol mashup and we built <a href="http://identi.ca">http://identi.ca</a> Jon On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Schrijver <<a href="mailto:eric@authoritism.net">eric@authoritism.net</a>> wrote: > Since I became social network junky I worry a lot about the privacy implications of such centralised non-free software. So I figured social networking should be distributed. And also figured that this would be a ludicrous hassle to implement. > > But last week I came across the onesocialweb project. > Their code went online last week (under the apache license). They rigged openfire XMPP (instant messaging) servers so that they have social functionality. You set up your on social network on such a server, and these servers can subsequently connect into what they call ?the federation?. Distributed, connected! > > <a href="http://onesocialweb.org">http://onesocialweb.org</a> > Since the release the first few nodes have already gone online. > > I just wanted to point to this project because I think this and similar software can only become something if we start playing with it. Otherwise it just stays a lab project or thought experiment? > &social networking is here to stay, and in spite of common scepsis I believe it can be quite stimulating for creatives. > > Cheers, > > Eric Schrijver > > ps > > found this via the comments on the proposals at > <a href="http://wingolog.org/archives/2010/04/10/towards-a-gnu-autonomous-cloud">http://wingolog.org/archives/2010/04/10/towards-a-gnu-autonomous-cloud</a> > much more interesting links in the comments including > <a href="http://www.isoc-ny.org/?p=1338">http://www.isoc-ny.org/?p=1338</a> Eben Moglen; Freedom in the cloud > _______________________________________________ > CREATE mailing list > <a href="mailto:CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org">CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create</a> > -- Jon Phillips <a href="http://rejon.org/">http://rejon.org/</a> <a href="http://fabricatorz.com/">http://fabricatorz.com/</a> <a href="http://status.net/">http://status.net/</a> <a href="http://rejon.status.net">http://rejon.status.net</a> + skype: kidproto +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) +86.134.3957.2035 (china) ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ CREATE mailing list <a href="mailto:CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org">CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create</a> End of CREATE Digest, Vol 58, Issue 19 ************************************** </blockquote> </div>