"artists" seems to me overbroad. Our tools are very much "design" tools. Perhaps it is not the best fit, but it is better than "graphics," (due to including typesetting/typography) while Libre Artists Foundation sounds to me more like a foundation to support the artists themselves rather than also supporting the tools (not saying that the foundation is not meant to support the community, just that the name should not point to one side over the other imo).<br>
<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Jon Nordby <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jononor@gmail.com">jononor@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Haltiwanger<br>
<<a href="mailto:john.haltiwanger@gmail.com">john.haltiwanger@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> So my mind was tumbling on it, and I stumbled across the combination of:<br>
> Free Design Foundation. I suggest this because it seems to keep the coverage<br>
> to the topics I saw covered at LGM (Bigups to all the people I met in the<br>
> BXL!). Not only that, it's actually touch more properly inclusive<br>
> considering the degree of typographic discussion that was carried out at<br>
> LGM. And perhaps inspiring more?<br>
</div>A couple of things to think of.<br>
Does "design" accurately describe the activities that people do with<br>
our software? When I hear "design" I mostly think of graphics thats<br>
made for a purpose, something that is designed. In contrast, "art" is<br>
both somewhat wider, and is often more experimental and/or creative.<br>
Design has more rules and best practices, art is very free flow,<br>
anything goes. And I think a lot of projects, and artists using these<br>
projects are more in the area of art than design.<br>
<br>
Another thing to consider are "which parts are free/libre". A lot of<br>
artists are using our projects, which are free and open source<br>
software, to create "non-free" works. And thats perfectly fine in my<br>
opinion, its an important part of the freedom they have when using our<br>
tools. So are we talking mainly about free/libre software/tools, or<br>
about free/libre content/culture? The two are of course not divergent,<br>
but a name should represent the main focus or direction of an entity.<br>
<br>
A slight side-note to that, I think libre is significantly better word<br>
than free because its more explicitly about freedom; liberty. With<br>
free you often have to specify, "free as in freedom, not as in beer".<br>
<br>
If anyone feel that above comment are hampering the brainstorming,<br>
just spin it: "which words describe and/or represents the people,<br>
projects and activities involved in this organization?"<br>
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Regards Jon Nordby - <a href="http://www.jonnor.com" target="_blank">www.jonnor.com</a><br>
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