Hi,<br><br>Honestly, that's look very interesting, and we will need to discuss status, help or not from other organization, bank account, but can we keep on the subject please ? ;p<br>Actually, we were discussing the name ;)<br> <br>Is everyone agree with "Create Foundation" ("create" seems good, and it look likes we want to have "an organization managing founds with a moral goal") ?<br><br>Thanks for you enthusiasm ;)<br> -- yagraph<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/5/31 Dave Neary <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dneary@free.fr">dneary@free.fr</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="im">Hi,<br> <br> a.l.e wrote:<br> </div><div class="im">> Dave Neary wrote:<br> >> Smiley indicates humour or irony... but I'll answer this straight :)<br> ><br> > in my case, i tried to express through a smiley the fact that the<br> > question was meant in a positive, friendly way and not in a provocative<br> > way. i guess the one of yours was a more ironic one.<br> <br> </div>Not intended to be ironic, but friendly (as in, don't take this the<br> wrong way).<br> <br> > does anybody care?<br> <br> No, probably not.<br> <div class="im"><br> >> Cleared things up? :)<br> ><br> > somehow.<br> ><br> > i still don't know what the SFLC is, but i guess it's a US american<br> > company which would do a similar work for, us as the gnome foundation is<br> > currently doing for the LGM.<br> <br> </div>SFLC = Software Freedom Law Center, a non-profit, funded by donations<br> from various corporate sponsors, to provide free legal services to free<br> software projects. Founded by Eben Moglen, they currently have 3 lawyers<br> working for them (Karen Sandler, Aaron Williamson and another I don't<br> recall right now) and Bradley Kuhn, formerly of the FSF, who also works<br> for them but isn't a lawyer. Brandley also donates some of his time on<br> another SFLC project, the Software Freedome Conservancy, which provides<br> fiscal agency, financial and administrative services to (you guessed it)<br> free software projects. Including, as Jon said, Inkscape.<br> <div class="im"><br> > what i'm still missing are the advantages against just creating a very<br> > simple association and using an external organization (like the gnome<br> </div>> foundation) to manage our funds.<br> <br> "Create a simple association" implies a certain number of things in my<br> mind: By-laws & statutes, a membership structure, a governing<br> jurisdiction, a board of directors, tax returns, elections... basically,<br> a formal structure, registered with some government somewhere, governed<br> by the rules of that government (and if you want to give tax deductible<br> relief to sponsors, or you want to not pay taxes on donations yourself,<br> you have a lot of paperwork to do to justify your organisation).<br> <br> By putting yourself under an existing umbrella organisation, you avoid<br> that - informal elections or nominations of the people who will deal<br> with the umbrella folks would be useful, but you don't need to have<br> legally water-tight statutes & by-laws, AGMs, treasurer reports<br> submitted to the IRS every year, etc. You're getting all the benefits<br> and none of the down-side.<br> <br> Plus, in general, the only reason to create an association for a free<br> software project is a bank account, some kind of co-ordinated<br> marketing/branding campaign, and elected representatives. You don't need<br> an association to do the 2nd & 3rd.<br> <div class="im"><br> > or would the SFLC be the full politically correct partner boudwijn was<br> > suggesting we shold look for?<br> <br> </div>The Software Freedom Conservancy probably would be (the SFLC is slightly<br> different, but very much related).<br> <div class="im"><br> > p.s.: after trying several times to understand what "To-may-to<br> > to-mah-to?" actually means, i finally got it. now: can we keep a<br> > language level which is a bit more friendly to non native speakers? (if<br> > requested, i may even personally switch to sentences with correct caps).<br> <br> </div>The song about pronunciations of tomato and potato is very well known<br> internationally, and I didn't think that using the phonetics of it might<br> cause problems. I am sorry.<br> <div class="im"><br> Cheers,<br> Dave.<br> <br> --<br> Dave Neary<br> <a href="mailto:dneary@free.fr">dneary@free.fr</a><br> Tel: +33 9 51 13 46 45<br> Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13<br> _______________________________________________<br> </div><div><div></div><div class="h5">CREATE mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org">CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br>