Hi all, just going away one day, and there's a lot of mail to read ! Glad to see so much people are interested in this projects. Thanks to Jon especially for domain reservation... I suggest to keep Libre graphics, and use <a href="http://libre-graphics.org">libre-graphics.org</a> as a generative name basis (If we can get <a href="http://libregraphics.org">libregraphics.org</a> it's better, but not so critical IMO), and go on discussion on more advanced subjects like status (association, foundation, network ?) and goals. But I don't know how to discuss that before next LGM without generating a lot of mail. So if no one is opposed, we can go on on this mailing list. We can go on discussion here to define some slogan, or how we can use "Create" eventually, but I start two other subject on goals and status, trying to resume what have been already said. See you in another mail ;) -- yagraph <div class="gmail_quote">2010/6/2 a.l.e <<a href="mailto:ale.comp_06@xox.ch">ale.comp_06@xox.ch</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> hi, i may be not enough pragmatical but i hate choosing hacks for domain names. and i hate to bring traffic to somebody who is just collecting money from google ads, did almost agree to hand <a href="http://libregraphics.org" target="_blank">libregraphics.org</a> to us than changed his mind and wanted only to rent it to us for 4 years. but, at the end, it all depends on what we want to achieve. i had in mind an association whose goal was to spread the knowledge about the libre graphics. in that context it's imo important to go for a well chosen name and have a good domain address. i had in mind a site which would look like the wonderful LGM we had this year... a place where people who have the energy can go after they dreams (well, from time to time they may have to take care not to step on other people foots...). i notice that the discussion on this few threads about the LGF focuses on the balance among the projects, initiatives and companies to be involved. it's more about distributing money to the projects, taking decisions, and so on. this gives me a picture which is much more like the very useful create site we already have at freedesktop. we don't need a domain name for it, we can continue with <a href="http://create.freedesktop.org" target="_blank">create.freedesktop.org</a>, no problem! <a href="http://libre-graphics-association.org" target="_blank">libre-graphics-association.org</a> will also do. we can build an association around it and keep on doing our good work. (if it's this way which the association will go, i have not problem in trying to realize what i have in mind under its umbrella...) several people have joined this discussion after the LGM (i also stepped in late at LGM) and i have the feeling that the discussion needs to be slightly refocused: we should find out a bit more clearly which goals and means we want for the LGF! any idea how we could do this without having to meet again at the next LGM? (and without generating hundreds of emails?) ciao a.l.e _______________________________________________ <div class="im">CREATE mailing list <a href="mailto:CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org">CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org</a> </div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create</a> </div></div></blockquote></div>