Hi, I would like to see Libre Graphics Association on <a href="http://libre-graphics.org">libre-graphics.org</a>, as a SFLC Conservancy project. I buy Femke's rationale for 'association' over others, that's pretty much where I was going with group/league but I'm a sucker for alliteration ;-) Regards, Dave <blockquote>On 2 Jun 2010, 1:00 PM, "Femke Snelting" <<a href="mailto:snelting@collectifs.net">snelting@collectifs.net</a>> wrote: Hello :-) Combing through this thread, and after some intense discussions with Louis Desjardins, Pierre Marchand and others here in Brussels, I propose: *Libre Graphics Association* [LGA] In parallel, let's keep inventing slogans. It is a way to propose, discuss, play, re-phrase what Libre Graphics mean to us. But we should by all means avoid getting locked into a definition debate. Re-reading Dave Neary's original description of LGM <a href="http://dneary.free.fr/lgm06/" target="_blank">http://dneary.free.fr/lgm06/</a> is one way to understand why sticking to Libre Graphics is more than the easy way out. Some more arguments: *Libre* - The only hard criteria for projects that we like to bring together, is that they contribute to a Free, Libre and Open Source ecology. The name of our organisation should refer to what sets us apart from proprietary tools - Needing to explain what Libre means, is a feature - The non-English "Libre" hints at international in a non-jetset way *Graphics* - "Graphics" can both refer to technology (colormanagement, curves, ...) and to form (illustration, type, ...) - It is a unobtrusive way to name a common interest of designers, artist and designers - It acts as a point of reference rather than a definition Not having the <a href="http://libregraphics.org" target="_blank">libregraphics.org</a> domain is annoying but not a reason to change the kind of organisation we need. The part of the name that matters to me most: *Association* - The Libre Graphics community is a network. We should not want a Foundation. The work of the Libre Graphics community brings together very different goals, ideas, flavors, methods and perspectives. The energy buzz of LGM is about seeing work that none of us could have imagined on our own. At LGM we discuss standards and workflows for example. Not because we want to constrain creativity, but because we want to participate in interesting interfaces between developers, artists and devsigners. Now LGM is growing away from an informal network, we cannot avoid imagining some form of organisation that supports Libre Graphics or the Libre Graphics Meeting long term. But however it plays out, we need to take care of the diversity that drives this community. A foundation exists to define and converge; an association can support a network. I think it is a mistake to use this term for Libre Graphics, even (or even more so) the organisation is legally set up as an association. More about what that will mean is for the "whatever" thread! Femke P.S.: Sorry to not have participated in the BoF Camille organised. I would like to contribute to the "development" of an organisation that supports Libre Graphics and will get back to that once the practicalities of this LGM 2010 have been dealt with. Promise! _______________________________________________ CREATE mailing list <a href="mailto:CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org">CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org</a> ht...</blockquote>