So everyone agree with all this goals ? I don't believe it ! There's another point to discuss too : when to start each goals ? Louis have suggested to start a network and to wait to be ready to set up any founding, which sound wise. Please comment ! -- yagraph <div class="gmail_quote">2010/6/2 Camille Bissuel <<a href="mailto:cbissuel@yagraph.org">cbissuel@yagraph.org</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi everyone, Going on the subject of the "LGF" projects, and now we assume to keep "Libre Graphics" as a basis name, let's go on the discussion on another topic : goals of such an organization. As far as I can summarize, here is what have been said so far : --- Camile Bissuel (aka yagraph - myself), the intent I had starting the BoF session : " Simply said, we have two main goals (to discuss) : - connect and create a network of LG projects and peoples (not only devs, but also designers, teachers, and users) - as an horizon line, we want to found and get money for the Libre Graphics projects via a non-profit organization " I can add that I've through to such an organization to professionalize LG projects, both as a teacher, as a designer and as an user in collaboration with developpers. If you're interested, please get a look to slides I had prepared (but not used) : <a href="http://www.yagraph.org/images/LGM/what-about-a-lgf.svg" target="_blank">http://www.yagraph.org/images/LGM/what-about-a-lgf.svg</a> (to look at in Firefox) . --- Andreas Vox : " 2 Aim The aim of the organization is to connect people in the Libre Graphics world. Members have been organizing the Libre Graphics Meeting for the last five years. The organization will carry the spirit of the LGM to an organizational level by providing a central point of contact for developers, artists and donators. It will do so in - organizing Libre Graphics meetings - providing a website that links to all Endorsed Projects and promotes the idea of Libre Graphics - uses and protects the terms "Libre Graphics" and "Libre Graphics Meeting" as a trademark. - brings together developers with potential donators/funders - provides certificates for teachers and students of Libre Graphics software (needs clarification) - provides a marketplace for artists and teachers of Libre Graphics - furthers communications between users and developers of Libre Graphics software " --- IMO, Here are things we may do with such an organization : - be considered professional - certificate teaching - connect peoples and professions (developers, designers, teachers, users, ...) through a web network - promote and spread libre graphics projects - pay devs with donation and incomes from teaching or content or membership to develop Libre graphics software (things like GSOC or maybe even full time jobs) - fund projects similar to the 3 open movies the Blender Foundation have successfully organized (Krita have a project of comic for example) - have company wide discussion (for example with Adobe to discuss standards, or with W3C to discuss drafts...) - organize future LG Meetings ;) - ... In summary : do things we can't do in an informal network. Louis Desjardin has also said that we can't do everything right now or quickly, and that's right, but let's think to it as an horizon line in a near or distant future. Please freely give you opinion, feelings, and so on ! If a consensus is obtained, we will formalize that on the create wiki, and start to build a charter as Andreas Vox have already started. Cheers, -- yagraph </blockquote></div>