Hi all, I do not think that anyone wants to kill anyone project. The whole purpose of the LGA proposition is collaboration between projects. It's not "a ring to rule them all" neither. Let's think of it from an user point of view. What are these tools and what can I do with them ? How can I have information on current projects and relations between them ? How can I found a teacher ? How can I support a project or donate ? We can't answer theses questions without a portal website. As a professional, it took me almost 1 year of daily survey to know all current interesting websites. The Create wiki is very useful for "internal" work. But it's not for users. Other websites, including <a href="http://libregraphicsworld.org/" target="_blank">http://libregraphicsworld.org</a>, aren't aimed to address the LGA purpose, they are too specific. I have time to build such a website, so it's not a waste of time for other projects. One more time, it's not meant to trust others website content. it's a portal, a link directory, an aggregation platform... content is out. Aim is to say to users, institution, professionals that yes, we can collaborate at an international level, yes we share ideas about our tools, yes we have viable solutions, and yes, we can do some support and receive founds in a decentralized way. I'm tired to be considered unprofessional because I use free softwares. So, please stop fire, and start collaboration. Jon, I'm also interested to know more on internationalization in the Aïki framework, it sounds good, and I'm thinking seriously to use it. Thanks for all your comments by the way. --yagraph <div class="gmail_quote">2010/8/8 a.l.e <<a href="mailto:ale.comp_06@xox.ch">ale.comp_06@xox.ch</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> hi robert, <div class="im"> > > feel free to feel offended. > > > > this is not acceptable. > jon clearly adressed the way you proposed to "kill" one of his > projects. this sounded somewhat disrespectful in my ears, too. </div>i don't really want to have a lengthy discussion on this topic. i have never proposed to kill any of jon's projects. period. if you look at my mail i never ever mention the term "project". i was only talking about websites and domain names. if anybody is attached to the url <a href="http://create.freedesktop.org" target="_blank">create.freedesktop.org</a> and to the current form of that website, yes, i've stepped on his/her toes. sorry, but i really have the feeling that we have to get more user friendly on that regard. (btw, i have nothing against a create.libre-graphics.org... but i think one of the jon sorrows was that we have too many websites and urls.) if you have the feeling that i was discussing about the wrong topics, i'll step out of the discussion. no problem. if you have the feeling that i should use a less direct language, i'll do it. but, please, don't cite me for things i have not said (and i've already pointed out that i didn't meant to say it). ciao a.l.e <div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________ CREATE mailing list <a href="mailto:CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org">CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create</a> </div></div></blockquote></div>