2011/2/21 <a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a> <<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org">jon@rejon.org</a>> <div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Great thread, awesome ideas! I like the theme for the conference LGM2020 :) hahaha or LGMFUTUREZ. Can the ideas in this thread be distilled onto the wiki by the weekend? March 1 is coming up. Femke, you are leading the panels right? I'll take one on. Nathan, can you help us craft some press for March 1? Messaging: future of libre graphics is in y(our) hands, pledgie drive, and call for participation <a href="http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Conference#Press" target="_blank">http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Conference#Press</a> Eric, and I, we are pulling together the fundraiser to launch on that date as well. Louis, how is the timeline? <a href="http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/6th_Libre_Graphics_Meeting_Montreal_2011#Timeline" target="_blank">http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/6th_Libre_Graphics_Meeting_Montreal_2011#Timeline</a> Cool? </blockquote><div> Perfect ! :) I will add more later. Just got back from a meeting at ICGQ where I could visit the whole installations and then a meeting with Ginger at Studio XX. Need to finish up some work at the office. Will be in touch soon ! Louis </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Jon <div><div></div><div class="h5"> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Femke Snelting <<a href="mailto:snelting@collectifs.net">snelting@collectifs.net</a>> wrote: >> On 02/12/2011 06:32 PM, Gregory Pittman wrote: >>> >>> On 02/12/2011 06:45 AM, Femke Snelting wrote: >>>> >>>> Not sure about needing less talks, but in favour of having a few >>>> well-prepared, moderated panels :-) >>> >>> +1 >>> I would emphasize _well-prepared_. Better to have only one or just a >>> few as long as they can be "guaranteed" (disclaimer: nothing can be >>> guaranteed) to be top-notch. Keep the audience in mind. >>> >> I think "keeping the audience in mind" means if we can only come up with >> one or two topics worthy of panel discussion, we don't set up multiple >> panels just 'cause we can.... So are there concepts we can nail down? >> If so, I'd suggest we want to get those in order *before* opening up the >> call for individual submissions.... > > For a 2nd panel I propose we discuss artist-developer collaborations: what > drives people with different interests in the same Libre Graphics software, > to productively work together? > > It relates to the recent post by Alexandre Prokoudine: Contributing to free > software projects (a must-read: "How can I help a free software project, if > I don’t code" > <a href="http://prokoudine.info/blog/2011/02/contributing-to-free-software-projects" target="_blank">http://prokoudine.info/blog/2011/02/contributing-to-free-software-projects</a>) > and also to LGM itself (Nathan Willis in response to LGM 2010: "LGM has > always placed more of an emphasis on connecting users and developers than > other open source conferences, but this year the difference that emphasis > made was more noticeable. It was not perfect; several artists and designers > mentioned informally that they would liked to have had more direct > discussions with the development teams about the future of the projects, but > did not find the opportunity." <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/390572" target="_blank">http://lwn.net/Articles/390572</a>). > > Maybe Mushon Zer Aviv could be someone to invite to the table... He is a > 'designer, an educator and a media activist based in NY & Tel Aviv' and has > written and lectured extensively about Open Source Design. I don't always > agree but think his perspective is interesting for LGM ("Successful > open-source projects have always benefited from a mix of the two approaches, > a combination of openness and leadership. Finding a similarly nuanced > approach in other fields is required if we ever hope to extend the > open-source model beyond code." > <a href="http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/09/01/the-case-for-open-source-design-can-design-by-committee-work" target="_blank">http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/09/01/the-case-for-open-source-design-can-design-by-committee-work</a> > -- might help us understand why the recent Ubuntu re-design was outsourced > to a non-libre agency using proprietary tools?). > > Also we need an occasion to talk about why and how Scribus-developers are > currently re-coding the properties panel in order to facilitate > contributions by new types of contributors, and maybe why designers happy to > contribute to F/LOSS, don't like contests ;-) > > Femke > > > P.S.: ginger proposed a panel on "Exchanging workflows between F/LOSS and > artists". It's obviously linked (Mushon might actually be better suited for > that) so we need to figure out if there is not too much overlap and > subsequently merge or re-articulate. > _______________________________________________ > CREATE mailing list > <a href="mailto:CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org">CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create</a> > </div></div>-- <div><div></div><div class="h5">Jon Phillips <a href="http://rejon.org/" target="_blank">http://rejon.org/</a> | <a href="http://fabricatorz.com/" target="_blank">http://fabricatorz.com/</a> chat/skype: kidproto | irc: rejon +1.415.830.3884 (global) | +1-510-499-0894 (sf) </div></div></blockquote></div>