<html><head><style type="text/css"></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Keep in touch with list, do not forget to post your rtsp server bin enhancement on bugzilla ! Such an element could be very interesting, as an alternative to DSS. Aurelien </div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">----- Message d'origine ---- De : Rémi BUISSON <remi.buisson@viotech.net> À : Discussion of the development of GStreamer <gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Envoyé le : Vendredi, 8 Août 2008, 15h28mn 05s Objet : Re: [gst-devel] Re : Re : Re : Help with RTP OK I understand now. I have all in mind to do a good job. Rémi Aurelien Grimaud wrote: > There are two "rtpbin" elements availables for gstreamer > rtpbin from gst-plugin-farsight and gstrtpbin from gst-plugins-bad. > I think Remi was using farsight's and Thomas gst-plugin-bad one. > I prefer the last one (gstrtpbin), it handles multiple rtp sessions, > with AV sync using rtcp. jitterbuffer works better and RTCP is generated. > > Remi, keep in mind that RTP is only a transport. You need some > negotiation to be able to display a stream. RTP, for many case, is not > enough. You need clockrate, frame size, frame rate of the stream and > of course which codec to use. > These are the informations given by the sdp file, which are exchanged > via the stream negotiation protocol RTSP. > So RTP handling is not enough if you want your client to be generic. > You also need a codec negotiation for client to know what is sent and  > how to handle it. > > > Do you mean I have to write a plugin which is like this pipeline ? > > src -> demuxer -> streamer_transformer -> encoder -> payloader -> rtp > > Actually, just the src/demuxer part of this pipeline is missing in > gstreamer. > It could be a rtspserversrc : > It would act as a udp/tcp src, handling rtsp requests. > DESCRIBE requests may be answered via local sdp files (as in QTSS) or > full filled by a signal > SETUP requests create udpsink elements, and new sometimes sink pad  to > link to rtp. > PLAY and PAUSE requests will be signaled to application. > TEARDOWN will clean up and send eos. > > In fact rtspserversrc does not need to be a source. It can be linked > to a tcp/udp source feeding it with rtsp. > > udpsrc (rtsp) -->  |----------------| <--- <SETUP pad> -- <-- > payloader <-- encoder <-- stream_transformer <-- stream source >                              | rtspserverbin | >                              |----------------| --> |-----------| >                                                              | > gstrtpbin |--> udpsink (rtp) >                                  udpsrc (rtcp) --> |-----------|--> > udpsink (rtcp) >                                                > > Aurelien > > ----- Message d'origine ---- > De : Thomas Winkler <<a ymailto="mailto:wi-tom@gmx.de" href="mailto:wi-tom@gmx.de">wi-tom@gmx.de</a>> > À : <a ymailto="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" href="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net">gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net</a> > Envoyé le : Vendredi, 8 Août 2008, 12h05mn 02s > Objet : Re: [gst-devel] Re : Re : Help with RTP > > gst-launch rtpbin localport=5000 ! rtph264depay ! decodebin ! xvimagesink > > This pipeline is incomplete. Your Sender pipeline uses udpsink, so you > have to use udpsrc on your Receiver. If you want to use rtpbin on your > Receiver, you have to add the udpsrc element and connet it with the > rtpbin element. > > Example: > > > Sender: > ========= > VCAPS="video/x-raw-yuv,width=352,height=288,framerate=15/1" > RHOST=192.168.0.5 > > gst-launch-0.10 -v gstrtpbin name=rtpbin v4l2src ! $VCAPS \ >                        ! ffmpegcolorspace \ >                        ! ffenc_h263 \ >                        ! video/x-h263 \ >                        ! rtph263pay \ >                        ! application/x-rtp \ >                        ! rtpbin.send_rtp_sink_0 rtpbin.send_rtp_src_0 \ >                        ! application/x-rtp \ >                        ! udpsink host=$RHOST port=5000 sync=false > async=false rtpbin.send_rtcp_src0 \ >                        ! udpsink host=$RHOST port=5001 sync=false > async=false udpsrc port=5005 \ >                        ! application/x-rtcp \ >                        ! rtpbin.recv_rtcp_sink_0 > > > > Receiver: > ========= > VCAPS="application/x-rtp,media=(string)video,clock-rate=(int)90000,encoding-name=(string)H263" > RHOST=192.168.0.5 > > gst-launch-0.10 -v gstrtpbin name=rtpbin udpsrc caps=$VCAPS port=5000 \ >                        ! application/x-rtp \ >                        ! rtpbin.recv_rtp_sink_0 rtpbin. \ >                        ! application/x-rtp \ >                        ! rtph263depay \ >                        ! video/x-h263 \ >                        ! decodebin \ >                        ! ffmpegcolorspace \ >                        ! xvimagesink sync=false async=false udpsrc > port=5001 \ >                        ! application/x-rtcp \ >                        ! rtpbin.recv_rtcp_sink_0 rtpbin.send_rtcp_src_0 \ >                        ! application/x-rtcp \ >                        ! udpsink host=$RHOST port=5005 sync=false > async=false > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > Datum: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:09:00 +0200 > > Von: "Rémi BUISSON" <<a ymailto="mailto:remi.buisson@viotech.net" href="mailto:remi.buisson@viotech.net">remi.buisson@viotech.net</a> > <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:remi.buisson@viotech.net" href="mailto:remi.buisson@viotech.net">remi.buisson@viotech.net</a>>> > > An: Discussion of the development of GStreamer > <<a ymailto="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" href="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net">gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net</a> > <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" href="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net">gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net</a>>> > > Betreff: Re: [gst-devel] Re :  Re :  Help with RTP > > > > > > > Aurelien Grimaud wrote: > > > Darwin is a streaming server. It is fed with RTP Audio/Video streams > > > and is able to dispatch them to rtsp clients. > > > So yes, you can stream from dvb source to Darwin, and then use an > rtsp > > > client to ask Darwin for the stream. > > > > > > To interact with Darwin, you have to write your own darwin plugin. > > > Have a look at the QTSS documentation > > > <a href="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/streamingserver/" target="_blank">http://www.apple.com/quicktime/streamingserver/</a> > > > > > > A better solution would be to write a gstreamer plugin acting as a > > > RTSP server ... > > Do you mean I have to write a plugin which is like this pipeline ? > > src -> demuxer -> streamer_transformer -> encoder -> payloader -> rtp > > > > If this is this, that was my original idea but I have some trouble in > > using rtpbin. > > I send a file with this : > > gst-launch filesrc location=../partage/Videos/superman_originale.avi ! > > decodebin ! x264enc ! rtph264pay ! rtpbin localport=5001 > > destinations=192.168.1.2:5000 > > > > I receive it with this : > > gst-launch udpsrc port=5000 ! rtph264depay ! decodebin ! xvimagesink > > > > And I don't know why I have to use the last pipeline instead of : > > gst-launch rtpbin localport=5000 ! rtph264depay ! decodebin ! > xvimagesink > > > > to make it work. > > > > Next, I don't know why streams are not compatible because I can't read > > the stream I send with VLC or Totem (which use gstreamer). > > > > Rémi > > > > > > Aurelien > > > > > > ----- Message d'origine ---- > > > De : Rémi BUISSON <<a ymailto="mailto:remi.buisson@viotech.net" href="mailto:remi.buisson@viotech.net">remi.buisson@viotech.net</a> > <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:remi.buisson@viotech.net" href="mailto:remi.buisson@viotech.net">remi.buisson@viotech.net</a>>> > > > À : Discussion of the development of GStreamer > > > <<a ymailto="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" href="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net">gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net</a> > <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" href="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net">gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net</a>>> > > > Envoyé le : Jeudi, 7 Août 2008, 17h14mn 30s > > > Objet : Re: [gst-devel] Re : Help with RTP > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > With this server, can I stream from dvb source for instance ? > > > > > > In fact, I am in an internship and the program I have to write must > > > exchange SIP message for the commands. So my question is: can I > interact > > > easily with Darwin from my C program ? with a plugin ? > > > > > > Thanks again ! > > > > > > Rémi > > > > > > Aurelien Grimaud wrote: > > > > Hi, I think you need a server here to handle the negotiations (sdp > > > > exchange). > > > > Then, you can use RTCP sent by client to detect network congestion. > > > > > > > > Darwin streaming server is a rtsp server and may be a good start to > > > > handle rtsp. > > > > It also supports easy plugin writting, in which you can alter your > > > > stream the way you want, without re-writting a rtsp stack from > > scratch. > > > > > > > > Aurelien > > > > > > > > ----- Message d'origine ---- > > > > De : Rémi BUISSON <<a ymailto="mailto:remi.buisson@viotech.net" href="mailto:remi.buisson@viotech.net">remi.buisson@viotech.net</a> > <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:remi.buisson@viotech.net" href="mailto:remi.buisson@viotech.net">remi.buisson@viotech.net</a>> > > > <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:remi.buisson@viotech.net" href="mailto:remi.buisson@viotech.net">remi.buisson@viotech.net</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:remi.buisson@viotech.net" href="mailto:remi.buisson@viotech.net">remi.buisson@viotech.net</a>>>> > > > > À : Daiane Angolini <<a ymailto="mailto:daiane.angolini@freescale.com" href="mailto:daiane.angolini@freescale.com">daiane.angolini@freescale.com</a> > <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:daiane.angolini@freescale.com" href="mailto:daiane.angolini@freescale.com">daiane.angolini@freescale.com</a>> > > > <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:daiane.angolini@freescale.com" href="mailto:daiane.angolini@freescale.com">daiane.angolini@freescale.com</a> > <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:daiane.angolini@freescale.com" href="mailto:daiane.angolini@freescale.com">daiane.angolini@freescale.com</a>>>> > > > > Cc : Discussion of the development of GStreamer > > > > <<a ymailto="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" href="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net">gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net</a> > <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" href="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net">gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net</a>> > > > <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" href="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net">gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net</a> > <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" href="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net">gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net</a>>>> > > > > Envoyé le : Jeudi, 7 Août 2008, 8h37mn 59s > > > > Objet : Re: [gst-devel] Help with RTP > > > > > > > > Hi and thanks for your reply ! > > > > > > > > OK I will try today and I will tell you if it works for me. > > > > > > > > My goal is to write a streaming server which can transcode, > transrate, > > > > ... a stream and using a file for clients may be some kind of a > > > > do-it-yourself solution. > > > > > > > > For instance, the client send a message to the server for > starting the > > > > streaming of a file. Next, imagine the network is overloaded. Then, > > the > > > > client will ask to the server to decrease the bitrate of the stream. > > > > > > > > The client may be VLC, MPlayer, ... > > > > > > > > Have you any idea to do it ? > > > > > > > > I think it's possible because the streams are standardized. > > > > Moreover, I tried to read a video streamed by flumotion over > HTTP and > > it > > > > works perfectly with VLC. > > > > > > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > > > Daiane Angolini wrote: > > > > > Hello Remi! > > > > > > > > > > If you want to see streaming using VLC you can use a SDP file. > > > > > > > > > > Try this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *v=0* > > > > > *o=- 37 614155991 IN IP4 127.0.0.0* > > > > > *s=QuickTime* > > > > > *t=0 0* > > > > > *a=range:npt=now-* > > > > > *m=audio 5432 RTP/AVP 0* > > > > > *c=IN IP4 10.29.241.6* > > > > > *b=AS:63* > > > > > *m=video 5434 RTP/AVP 96* > > > > > *c=IN IP4 10.29.241.6* > > > > > *a=rtpmap:96 H263-2000/90000* > > > > > *a=fmtp:96  * > > > > > *a=cliprect:0,0,144,176* > > > > > *a=framesize:96 176-144* > > > > > > > > > > In this file you have both audio and video. > > > > > But if you need a simple one, you can try this: > > > > > > > > > > *v=0* > > > > > *m=video 5434 RTP/AVP 96* > > > > > *c=IN IP4 10.29.240.186* > > > > > *a=rtpmap:96 MP4V-ES/90000  * > > > > > *a=fmtp:96 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > config=000001b002000001b59113000001000000012000c488800f50584121443f;profile-level-id=2* > > > > > > > > > > The *config* and *profile-level-id* you can get from the return > > value > > > > > of *gst-lauch -v* command. In the caps property. > > > > > > > > > > Ah! > > > > > To use VLC with SDP file use: > > > > > > > > > > vlc -vvv file.sdp > > > > > > > > > > I hope it works > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Daiane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 16:21 +0200, Rémi BUISSON wrote: > > > > >> Hi everyone, > > > > >> > > > > >> I have some troubles streaming video file over the network. > > > > >> > > > > >> First of all, I tired this : > > > > >> > > > > >> server: > > > > >> gst-launch filesrc > > > location=../partage/Videos/superman_originale.avi ! > > > > >> decodebin ! x264enc ! video/x-h264 ! rtph264pay pt=96 ! udpsink > > > > >> host=192.168.1.2 port=5000 sync=false > > > > >> > > > > >> client: > > > > >> gst-launch udpsrc port=5000 ! rtph264depay  ! decodebin ! > > xvimagesink > > > > >> > > > > >> It works but I can't read it with vlc : vlc udp://@:5000 : is it > > > > normal ? > > > > >> > > > > >> Now I would like to do the same thing with an RTP pipeline 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