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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I noticed the GObject docs (http://library.gnome.org/devel/gobject/unstable/gobject-The-Base-Object-Type.html#GObjectClass)
say:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Before returning, </span></font><code><i><font size=2
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'>dispose</span></font></i></code>
should chain up to the <code><i><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'>dispose</span></font></i></code>
method of the parent class.<font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This contradicts what I said about having
GstElement provide a dispose hook for derived types.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The descriptions of GObjectClass.dispose()
and GObjectClass.finalize() make it unclear where deallocation of property
values should happen, but I&#8217;d imagine it would be fine to do this from
dispose().&nbsp; I&#8217;m guessing that the clause &#8220;</span></font>client
method invocations still work&#8221;<font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> after dispose() refers
mostly to GObject methods and &#8220;</span></font>still work<font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>&#8221; simply means no segfaults.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So, going back to my original concern, what
about simply adding the following member to GstElementClass?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<pre><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font>void&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (*free_config)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (GstElement&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *element);<o:p></o:p></pre>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If not, then how about at least describing
how to tie into GObject.dispose(), in the Plugin Writer&#8217;s Guide, and
maybe adding an example to the templates?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Also, I noticed that section 23.1 of the
Plugin Writer&#8217;s Guide says:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font>Make
sure the state of an element gets reset when going to <code><font size=2
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>NULL</span></font></code>.
Ideally, this should set all object properties to their original state.<font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Again, why not add a hook in
GstElementClass to support this?&nbsp; Most people probably miss it, and it
forces you to tie into state transitions &#8211; even if you&#8217;re using a
pre-made baseclass whose start() and stop() hooks seem to imply that doing so
is unnecessary.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Matt<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Gruenke, Matt <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 03, 2011
17:57<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> GObjectClass.dispose()
and GstElement</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Based on my reading of the Plugin Writer&#8217;s Guide &amp;
the GstElement reference docs, elements are supposed to complete all of their
deallocation on the READY -&gt; NULL transition.&nbsp; However, it&#8217;s
always bothered me that there&#8217;s a case where you could still get a memory
leak.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Suppose an element&#8217;s GObjectClass.set_property() gets
called while the element is still in the NULL state. &nbsp;If this property
accepts a string or some other type of heap-allocated object, the element is
probably going to create a copy or add a ref. &nbsp;Now, suppose some problem
occurs and the element is disposed before ever going to the READY state.
&nbsp;There will be no transition back to NULL. &nbsp;Therefore, the only
possibility of deallocating the value is by overriding GstObjetClass.dispose().<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I concede that this isn&#8217;t normally an issue, since the
size of any such properties is likely to be very small and many applications
will either exit or typically repeat this sequence a limited number of
times.&nbsp; However, it&#8217;s quite possible that some sort of automated
recording application might repeat this sequence somewhat rapidly and for an
indefinite period of time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Then, there&#8217;s the whole philosophical issue of
avoiding even small leaks, which turns into a very practical issue when trying
to use tools to find slightly more serious leaks.&nbsp; I know you can usually
work around this, through the use of filtering, but it&#8217;s inconvenient and
not always satisfactory&#8230; let&#8217;s please try to avoid a flame war
about this.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Would it be so bad for GstObjectClass and GstElementClass to
at least provide a dispose() hook?&nbsp; I&#8217;m aware that I could just save
the old value &amp; replace with my own dispose(), but something feels wrong
about having the derived type dispose of its ancestors.&nbsp; It&#8217;s also
not a very user-friendly way to do it, since there are numerous ways the
derived type can mess things up (i.e. not saving the old value or failing to
call it last).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Matt<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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