<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">hello, the Cisco announcement is great and is really interesting to follow up. Our understanding at Fluendo, as licensee of many patent holders like MPEGLA would be the following. (Please take it as our understanding, we are all still waiting for more details about this) 1. Cisco has announced they open their H264 codec under BSD license, and provide the sources to everyone, without asking for any fee. 2. Then on the other side, they apparently will provide also a binary of the same together with the MPEGLA patent license, at no fee either. This is possible as Cisco apparently decided to pay upfront the annual cap for H264, for this year and the following (which represents more that 10M of $ a year). The condition is to download the soft from their facilities. Which means - anyone wanting to use their H264 can do it, take the source and, we suppose, do everything allowed by BSD (permissive license, you can modify and even release a new version under a proprietary license) with no other restriction. Let's see when it is released. - with the binary, for any application requesting H264, it is possible to use the binary, push the user to download directly H264 in Cisco premises the H264 binary and so the user will be running H264 licensed. Warning: normally as far as we know the MPEGLA patent licenses this should not allow people to take the the soft and resell it budnled. Apparently the conditions for the binary is that it has to be downloaded from Cisco web. We will follow this closely together with our legal too, as we believe these are great actions when possible. At Fluendo we did that some years ago with our MP3 decoder. We opened it under MIT license, we paid upfront Thomson patent for Desktop use, and we distribute it for free on our web including the Thomson license (grab it on <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.fluendo.com">www.fluendo.com</a>). But for any commercial distribution, an agreement is still needed. I hope it helps regards <div class="moz-signature"> <meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> <meta name="GENERATOR" content="OpenOffice.org 2.3 (Win32)"> <meta name="AUTHOR" content="muriel moscardini"> <meta name="CREATED" content="20080122;14233300"> <meta name="CHANGED" content="20080123;11554214"> <meta name="CHANGEDBY" content="muriel moscardini"> <style type="text/css">  </style> Muriel Paumier-Moscardini CEO Fluendo Influencing the multimedia world New York, USA & Barcelona, SPAIN Mobile: +1 917 293 5377 united States: +1 646 290 5176 Spain: +34 933 175 153 <a href="http://www.fluendo.com/">www.fluendo.com</a> P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. </div> On 11/1/13 3:06 AM, elio francesconi wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:CALxo9nTDune-HZ49Ebt+fS-ffo5nPA-7phFWM7eCwrVKkjkW5Q@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> Dear all, I want to share with you this important news to know your opinion. Reading briefly this article it seems that Cisco, the codec's owner don't want royalties anymore. What does it means, pratically? Thanks Elio <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/30/cisco-plans-to-open-source-h-264-code-for-webrtc/?ncid=rss_truncated">http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/30/cisco-plans-to-open-source-h-264-code-for-webrtc/?ncid=rss_truncated</a> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________ gstreamer-devel mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gstreamer-devel@lists.freedesktop.org">gstreamer-devel@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/gstreamer-devel">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/gstreamer-devel</a> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>