Suspend and NetworkManager

[Richard Hughes]

On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 17:31 -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 08:12 +1000, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > >  - NetworkManager to shut networking down
> > >  - IRC / IM to log properly off
> > >  - Nautilus to finish copying stuff to hotpluggable / removable drives
> > >  - Abiword to quick-save all documents before letting go.
> > 
> > All those examples delay the suspend - I can fully understand and agree with 
> > them, but how about the ACK/NAK bit? That was what caused me to stumble.
> 
> Oh, yea.. well.. maybe I wasn't clear.. I didn't mean an application
> should be able to fully stop it.. only hint g-p-m that it needs more
> time. It's up to g-p-m to decide whether or how long it decides to honor
> the NAK... Hence the talk about the timeouts...
> 
> Btw, this is all me rambling.. and I do ramble a lot :-) ... we all need
> to talk Richard into doing this as it's his call as the g-p-m
> maintainer...

Sorry to come into the conversation late, been really busy.

With the suspend stuff, my only concern is: How long would an
application have to delay the shutdown for? I mean if Abiword takes 1.05
seconds to quicksave, and n-m takes about 0.2 seconds to disable the
card, then why can't we just give the applications 2 seconds to do their
thing, rather than asking all of them to define when they are done?
Isn't this what Microsoft is doing with Vista?

Richard.