info.icon in HAL

Martin Owens doctormo at gmail.com
Thu Mar 1 16:16:13 PST 2007


hmm, I often have to wonder how much more HAL will attempt to border
my project before I simply see all the functionality there.

What is HAL for exactly? abstracting functionality of hardware into
singular interfaces or simply providing more information about
hardware in general? because dohickey.sourceforge.net is based on hal
and I'd rather not see the same functionality merged into hal
directly; it just doesn't make sense.

If you want icon or picture information please work with me on
information abstraction.

Best Regards, Martin Owens

On 01/03/07, Richard Hughes <hughsient at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/03/07, Danny Kukawka <danny.kukawka at web.de> wrote:
> > On Donnerstag, 1. März 2007, Richard Hughes wrote:
> > > Attached patch adds info.icon to the spec. It's expected that all the
> > > icon logic be in hal-info, for which another patch is attached.
> >
> > What have HAL to do with icons? This isn't hardware abstraction! This
> > is some kind of desktop policy.
>
> Well, as David has mentioned before, HAL is a really bad name.
>
> I do think this fits in HAL for a few reasons:
>
> * we are defining what type of hardware the device is
> * we are in an ideal position to match with XML fdi files against
> vendor Id's and stuff
> * we can be cross desktop as we are using the freedesktop names
> * we can launch probers if we need to, to get more detailed info about
> the hardware
> * we don't have to re-impliment the rules and the matching in GNOME,
> KDE, XFCE etc
> * we can define the rules in hal-info with a stable rapid release
> policy so we can get icons for new devices as they are released
>
> > I wounder about this, also because we already marked the icon functions
> > HAL provided e.g. in libhal-storage as LIBHAL_DEPRECATED to remove them
> > soon - and now we add something similar again?
>
> No, I don't think stuff like gnome-vfs should call some random method,
> I think it should just read a property, and load an icon from the same
> HalDevice. This stuff shouldn't have to be rocket science for the
> session.
>
> > This sounds not really sane.
>
> Does it sound any less cracktastic with the ideas above?
>
> Richard.
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