Hey all, When I make a list of all the hardware connected to my computer I have a problem with firewire devices: I have an apple iSight plugged in and I get the following 2 devices in HAL:     ieee1394.product   Unknown (0xffffffff)     linux.sysfs_path  /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0a.4/fw-host0/000a27000402cae0/000a27000402cae0-0/000a27000402cae0-1     ieee1394.vendor  Unknown (0xffffffff)     ieee1394.specifier_id   41005     linux.hotplug_type  1     info.vendor  Unknown (0xffffffff)     info.parent  /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/ieee1394_guid_a27000402cae0     ieee1394.guid  2857630787881696     linux.sysfs_path_device   /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0a.4/fw-host0/000a27000402cae0/000a27000402cae0-0/000a27000402cae0-1     info.bus  ieee1394     info.product  Unknown (0xffffffff)     info.udi  /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/ieee1394_guid_a27000402cae0_0     ieee1394.version  258     ieee1394.product_id  0     linux.subsystem  ieee1394  ---     ieee1394.product  APPLE COMPUTER INC.     linux.sysfs_path  /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0a.4/fw-host0/000a27000402cae0/000a27000402cae0-0     ieee1394.vendor  APPLE COMPUTER INC.     ieee1394.specifier_id  41005     linux.hotplug_type  1     info.vendor  APPLE COMPUTER INC.     info.parent  /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_10b9_5253     ieee1394.guid   2857630787881696     linux.sysfs_path_device  /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0a.4/fw-host0/000a27000402cae0/000a27000402cae0-0     info.bus  ieee1394     info.product  APPLE COMPUTER INC.     ieee1394.vendor_id   524295     info.udi  /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/ieee1394_guid_a27000402cae0     ieee1394.version  258     ieee1394.product_id  0     linux.subsystem  ieee1394 Is HAL telling me that it doesn't know what the hell a isight is? is there not a standard way to get firewire device information such as product_id? This is a big problem for me because it means firewire devices will be ignored from my lists. broken. Best Regards, Martin Owens