<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">2015-06-29 2:57 GMT-04:00 Femke Snelting <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:snelting@collectifs.net" target="_blank">snelting@collectifs.net</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear all,<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Dear Femke, </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Apologies for late announcement but the idea was to just discuss the two proposals before the end of the month (July 1 unfortuntely impossible for me) so that we can ask for clarifications etc. before making an actual decision.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Considering the comments so far, I would suggest that a 3-day announcement prior to a meeting of that importance is probably too short. Meanwhile, to be prepared for the meeting we also need to read the proposals. We just got the info and today we have the links to the proposals, basically a little bit over 24 hours to read, make comments and be prepared for a discussion. I don’t feel comfortable with this schedule.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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If you cannot be there tomorrow, please read the documents and add comments, questions here: <a href="https://titanpad.com/lgmlocation-2017" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://titanpad.com/lgmlocation-2017</a> The IRC-logs will be sent to the list.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I suggested that for myself when I thought I would be the only one to be unable to join the meeting but I realize, now that I take the full measure of what’s going on, that the process — although not as timely as we would have liked it to be — is probably now suffering a too fast acceleration.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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For the decision meeting, can you select one of four dates here: <a href="https://nuages.domainepublic.net/m/wwW2B/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nuages.domainepublic.net/m/wwW2B/</a><br>
<br></blockquote><div>I think at this point it is urgent to set a pace to this process that will allow us to make the best possible decision for 2017. There is no need in my view to rush a discussion before the end of June, by calling a meeting 3 days prior to the deadline.</div><div><br></div><div>As for the decision dates you suggest, I for one will be on vacation and out of town during the same period.</div><div><br></div><div>My suggestion : call the meeting for discussion 2-3 weeks in advance, then give a one month delay for exchanges with the teams who make a proposal and possibly more since it’s summertime and vacation time for many of us.</div><div><br></div><div>Let’s make the final decision at the end of September.</div><div><br></div><div>Preferably not during working days, if this suggestion reaches the majority. I find difficult to be in an LGM meeting during working days, at working hours. I am probably not alone in this situation. I could manage with lunch time during working days if nothing else works better, but again, it would be much more convenient during a week-end.</div><div><br></div><div>Can we reach a consensus on a schedule that will allow people to get organized and be prepared?</div><div><br></div><div>Hope this helps!</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers!</div><div><br></div><div>Louis</div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
best!<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Femke</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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On 2015-06-29 00:13, Julien Deswaef wrote:<br>
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For me, either way should be fine.<br>
Except beyond thursday.<br>
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J<br>
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On 27/06/15 16:45, Louis Desjardins wrote:<br>
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Hello all,<br>
<br>
Would it be possible to consider having this first meeting the day<br>
after, on July 1st, same time?<br>
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Otherwise I won't be able to attend as I have a meeting scheduled at the<br>
same time on June 30.<br>
<br>
Another option would be to have those meeting during week-ends and<br>
possibly then at an earlier hour for Europeans.<br>
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Let me know what's possible and if nothing works I will try to catch up<br>
afterwards.<br>
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Cheers!<br>
<br>
<br>
2015-06-27 5:25 GMT-04:00 Femke Snelting <<a href="mailto:snelting@collectifs.net" target="_blank">snelting@collectifs.net</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:snelting@collectifs.net" target="_blank">snelting@collectifs.net</a>>>:<br>
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Dear all,<br>
<br>
This is an invitation to make a decision long due: Where will the<br>
Libre Graphics Meeting take place in 2017?<br>
<br>
Two interesting proposals were made [1], one for Niteroi/Rio de<br>
Janeiro (Brazil) and another for Singapore (Singapore).<br>
<br>
Following our experience from last years, I propose the following<br>
procedure:<br>
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People involved in organising, gather for an IRC meeting on *Tuesday<br>
30 June 20:00 CET* for a general discussion of these two proposals.<br>
<br>
From the list of people that have committed for 2016 [2], we get:<br>
Nate Willis, Louis Desjardins, Larisa Blasic, Antonio Roberts, Phil<br>
Langley, Pippin, ginger coons, Femke Snelting, Ale Rimoldi, Julien<br>
Deswaef, Liam Quin, Loraine Furter, Manuel Schmalstieg, Camille<br>
Bissuel, Martin Owens. Last years, Dave Crossland and Greg Pittman<br>
joined the discussion; would be good if you both can join again?<br>
<br>
The first meeting we use to check the proposals against criteria,<br>
and to discuss the consequences of either decision. Some points to<br>
consider [3]:<br>
<br>
- Ethical and political issues<br>
- Security issues<br>
- Health issues<br>
- Free software acceptance or support in the host country<br>
- Budget and sponsoring<br>
- Proposed dates and agenda issues with other events<br>
- Venue and on-site infrastructure<br>
- Travel and accommodation<br>
- Experience of the local team at organizing such an international event<br>
- Communication skills of the local team<br>
<br>
Relay-persons will clarify questions, issues with proposed venues.<br>
<br>
In a second meeting, we aim to find a consensus between organisers.<br>
Only if we cannot agree, we vote.<br>
<br>
The proposed venue is communicated to the LGM community for<br>
comments, objections.<br>
<br>
We aim to announce the 2017 location by August 1.<br>
<br>
Hope this works?<br>
<br>
best!<br>
<br>
<br>
Femke<br>
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[1]<br>
<a href="http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/lgm/public-documentation/venue-proposals/2017-venue-proposals/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/lgm/public-documentation/venue-proposals/2017-venue-proposals/</a><br>
[2] <a href="https://titanpad.com/lgm-organisation2016" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://titanpad.com/lgm-organisation2016</a><br>
[3] See also previous listings of criteria:<br>
<a href="http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/lgm/public-documentation/venue-requirements/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/lgm/public-documentation/venue-requirements/</a><br>
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<a href="http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/lgm/public-documentation/venue-selection-process/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/lgm/public-documentation/venue-selection-process/</a><br>
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