On 14 Jan 2014 15:51, "Hin-Tak Leung" <<a href="mailto:hintak@ghostscript.com">hintak@ghostscript.com</a>> wrote: > > > Hmm, I rather think some of the geekfeminism content material is rather extreme and make me uncomfortable. The whole site has a lot of stuff. Are you referring specifically to the coc template that is written to have bits you don't want elided? > The way I see these matters on equality and etc is this: does the paragraphs make sense if you replace every instance of the word "female" by "black person", "Chinese", "dwarf", "Obama" or "Geek", or "Your grandmother"? or another specific group of people? > > Granted, chinese isn't strictly speaking a 'minority', but you don't know how many 'slitty eye' jokes I have heard in my life. (Well, females aren't "minority" either... If you want to argue that attendences of females are rare, I can also say that attendences of chinese and blacks or "Obama" are rare too) > > geeks are minority among the general population, too. It is worth remembering. Perhaps there should only be one guideline - treat others like how you would like to be treated. > ------------------------------ > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 22:01 GMT Gregory Pittman wrote: > > >On 01/14/2014 03:20 PM, Jon Nordby wrote: > >> I support having a code of conduct. I had a read through the one at > >> <a href="http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Conference_anti-harassment/Policy">http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Conference_anti-harassment/Policy</a> > >> and found it to be very sane, both the statement and the practical > >> guideline on how organization should deal with matters. > >> > >> Having a policy does pledge organizers and volunteers to enforce it, > >> if need be. So if we decide to adopt one, all "staff" should explicity > >> state that they have read and accepted the policy. > >> It must also be sent out to presenters and attendees. > >> > > > >Personally, I would rather see language that talks of "respect" (a > >positive term) rather than "anti-harrassment" (a negative term). > > > >Thus, we can be on the lookout for behavior or materials as far as how > >they respect others, perhaps making some positive suggestions, as > >opposed to searching for harrassment as if it were some kind of > >witch-hunt (meaning no disrespect to witches of course). > > > >Greg > > > >_______________________________________________ > >CREATE mailing list > ><a href="mailto:CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org">CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org</a> > ><a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create</a> > > _______________________________________________ > CREATE mailing list > <a href="mailto:CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org">CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create</a>