<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">2014/1/16 ale rimoldi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:a.l.e@ideale.ch" target="_blank">a.l.e@ideale.ch</a>></span><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi,<br> <br> personally, I'm getting very tired with all those people who are not<br> happy with the tool(s) installed on the LGM server and keep bitching<br> around.<br> (And I'm not happy about the server not working correctly, either).<br> <br> <br> Since it seems that nobody likes the Wordpress that is currently<br> installed on the server, </blockquote><div><br></div><div>-1</div><div><br></div><div>What about OWANCS?</div><div><br></div><div>For me, speaking from the point of view of an organiser of LGM, I pretty much like most everything that’s available in Wp.</div> <div><br></div><div>Pros</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span">Easy to add or edit content even for organisers-with-almost-no-computer-skills (further noted as </span>OWANCS<span class="Apple-style-span">) like myself.</span></div> <div>Easy to create forms and edit them, and even set the notifications for an OWANCS.</div><div>Easy to retrieve data gathered with forms by a simple download to cvs and we can even pick the fields we need, and date, for any particular given needs, even for an OWANCS!</div> <div><br></div><div>Wishlist</div><div>It would be great if the Participant list would update itself automatically after each addition, in respect with the choice to be shown or not from the registrant. At present time I think this is done manually or semi-manually.</div> <div><br></div><div>Cons</div><div>Nothing worth mentioning and certainly nothing that would lead to a decision like taking Wp away!</div><div><br></div><div>This basically covers most of what’s written below.</div><div><br> </div><div>Some further comments in between the lines...</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">we need to remove it before next year's LGM.<br> <br> I'm not ready to maintain the server for another year under the current<br> circumstances.<br> <br> <br> Now, the reason for removing Wordpress are rather simple: it is a<br> blogging tool and nobody feels the need of doing any blogging on the<br> LGM site.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That maybe true today but might change quickly. Plus, WP has other advantages. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br> And:<br> <br> - Nobody thinks that using WP as a general tool is a good idea, either.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>OWANCS do. ;-) </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br> - Nobody things that using WP for information management is a<br> good idea. </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br> - The forms plugin installed (Gravity Forms) not only is a<br> commercial plugin that we should pay for each year, but it's also the<br> best solution available for WP and is not good enough for us<br> (no granular access to the forms).<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The Gravity Form cost $39 per year, something we can afford.</div><div><br></div><div>I am not sure to understand what "granular access" is. I know you can select fields to be downloaded but I have a sense that this is not what you mean here. Can you tell me what this is?</div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br> <br> So: we clearly have the wrong tool installed.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Not quite wrong! </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br> <br> <br> Now, the first step for building a solid site is to find out what we<br> need. The second step will be to propose and then choose the tools to be<br> used.<br> <br> <br> For what I know what we need (and mostly somehow already have) is:<br> <br> - A website presenting the LGM (currently the lgm/ wordpress instance)<br> <br> - An information management tool for the LGM (currently the lgm/<br> WP instance, partially as public, partially as private pages).<br> <br> - A website presenting the next/current LGM (currently the 2014/ wp...<br> and 2013/ wp, 2012/ wp...).<br> <br> - An information management tool for the specific LGM edition<br> (currently the mediawiki intance on houz' server).<br> <br> - A form/list editor for gathering the information from the<br> participants (currently the non free Gravity Forms for Wordpress).<br> <br> - An aggregator of tweets and co. about the LGM.<br> <br> <br> My questions to you are:<br> <br> - Do you know of other needs for the LGM server? (existing needs or nice<br> to have)<br> <br> - Do you know good tools for meeting those needs?<br> <br> And, on top of it, under certain circumstances, we will have to find a<br> new server for hosting those tools... so if you have any proposition...<br> <br> <br> <br> As a personal note, I'd like to install and maintain one single tool<br> that happens to meet all our needs *or* install several small tools<br> that all match one of the needs.<br> I'd like to avoid installing a tool like Mediawiki, which is somehow<br> the same as Wordpress, but starting from the wiki world instead of the<br> blogosphere. Somehow meeting each of needs, with no clear boundary on<br> what it can and cannot do.<br> ... except if you can convince a majority of LGMers that it's the best<br> tool to match one of our needs.<br> <br> <br> <br> I'd like to see a few ideas collected before the LGM, then discuss<br> it in Leipzig and find good solutions for the future of the LGM server.<br> <br> <br> Have a nice evening and sorry for the long mail... I could not write it<br> shorter.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It’s perfect! No worries about lenghty emails... I write some too! :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Last thought. I would like to introduce all geek reading this list to this minority-with-no-name until today, the OWANCS! :-)</div> <div><br></div><div>Any tool you guys pick, please be kind to us!</div><div><br></div><div>Louis</div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br> a.l.e<br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Libre-graphics-meeting mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Libre-graphics-meeting@lists.freedesktop.org">Libre-graphics-meeting@lists.freedesktop.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libre-graphics-meeting" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libre-graphics-meeting</a><br> </blockquote></div><br></div></div>