I agree with you Jehan. Fighting for freedom is even more important in this context and State violence can be worst than terrorism. Someone should be able to say he disagree with caricatures, as long as he doesn't kill for that. But that's the point. Let everyone express his views, in peace. Cheers, Camille <div class="gmail_quote">Le 17 janv. 2015 17:15, "Jehan Pagès" <<a href="mailto:jehan.marmottard@gmail.com">jehan.marmottard@gmail.com</a>> a écrit : <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi, I just wanted to make a small comment that, as someone with a French nationality who lives in France, I really don't like much the ambiance these last weeks in France since the terror events. According to some news I read, some people got arrested for saying bad stuff or drawing caricatures (yes, for drawing caricatures, how ironic!) on the wrong side (arrested and condemned for "apology of terrorism"). I don't know exactly what they said or drew (since they usually don't give the details in the article, and the journalists themselves may not even know them), and it may have indeed been horrible (anyway if they really meant that the attacks were something good, they are probably not people I would like), yet "freedom of speech" seems deader every day, in the name of this same freedom they affirm to protect. Apparently there have already been dozen of people *condemned* for *words* just in the last few days in France. All this to say that the whole frenesia around these unfortunate events lately and the fear they created in people appear to me to have mainly been used by politicians to just take back some more freedom. The sad thing is that it feels that this is what happens at each similar events around the world, whatever the country. So I am not saying that it is a bad idea to take a stance for freedom of speech in general, but LGM should be very careful in how they do it. Doing it with the background of the late events feel like endorsing all what the governments are trying to do in the name of these same events. And that's not pretty, I can tell you. Jehan On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Camille Bissuel <<a href="mailto:camille@nylnook.com">camille@nylnook.com</a>> wrote: > Ok, is a text like this one would get your consent ? > > " After Paris attacks and killing on Charlie Hebdo and Jews peoples, the > Libre Graphics Meeting wish to affirm its belief in freedom of speech. Free > tools are for every artist and individual, and every artist should be free > to express her or his views, even satirically, whatever religion or > community she or he belongs to. Fighting for free tools is also fighting for > free expression and arts. > We wish for more freedom, and more respects between peoples all over the > world in a spirit of peace, were we can express ourselves with words and > arts instead of bullets. " > > Please correct me (as you know I'm not a native english speaker !) and > improve or amend the sentences as you wish. > By the way, we can open a pad to work on it. > > have a nice day, > Camille > > > 2015-01-17 2:01 GMT+01:00 Gregory Pittman <<a href="mailto:gpittman@iglou.com">gpittman@iglou.com</a>>: >> >> On 01/16/2015 07:18 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: >> > On 16 January 2015 at 19:00, Louis Desjardins >> > <<a href="mailto:louis.desjardins@gmail.com">louis.desjardins@gmail.com</a>> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> we can use our own words to express the same idea >> > >> > >> > Which idea, exactly? :) There are a lot floating around :) >> > >> >> I think it's safe to say that Charlie Hebdo doesn't need our support. >> There is now worldwide and excessively intense interest in the >> publication, and while I can agree with the idea of free speech in >> countries where laws permit, this is a connected world where you cannot >> "fix" attitudes elsewhere: >> >> <a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30853305" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30853305</a> >> >> Greg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Libre-graphics-meeting mailing list >> <a href="mailto:Libre-graphics-meeting@lists.freedesktop.org">Libre-graphics-meeting@lists.freedesktop.org</a> >> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libre-graphics-meeting" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libre-graphics-meeting</a> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Libre-graphics-meeting mailing list > <a href="mailto:Libre-graphics-meeting@lists.freedesktop.org">Libre-graphics-meeting@lists.freedesktop.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libre-graphics-meeting" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libre-graphics-meeting</a> > _______________________________________________ Libre-graphics-meeting mailing list <a href="mailto:Libre-graphics-meeting@lists.freedesktop.org">Libre-graphics-meeting@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libre-graphics-meeting" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libre-graphics-meeting</a> </blockquote></div>