[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 135871] Highlighting no fill is not the same as no fill; there is still direct formatting present according to paragraph style

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135871

--- Comment #21 from Telesto <telesto at surfxs.nl> ---
(In reply to Luke Kendall from comment #20)
> > But of course, the whole style stuff is rather 'hard'. Basic formatting at
> > PS level (say font), some overlay at CS level (bold).. accompanied with DF
> > (say highlighting). What should auto-style produce here.
> 
> I'm not sure I understand.
> Do you mean, should the CS style (e.g. bold) be just a Bold style, or should
> it be a style that copies all the properties of the PS and then adds Bold to
> that and creates a PS, or is it just a CS style (e.g. StrongEmphasis, or
> SimplifiedCharStyle2 or whatever) applied on top of the PS?

A CS style is simply a style applied on top of the PS (so overruling the PS, as
far as the CS differs from PS). And DF formatting is overrules PS and CS (so DF
is always on top of everything). It isn't possible to stack different CS layers
on top of each other (not saying this should be possible; only noting)

Of course the implementation is again unfinished/confusing. A line of text. Set
the paragraph style default font to lets say: Linux Biolinum G. Select a part
of the text go to sidebar -> Character style & apply Strong Emphasis. Now right
click Strong Emphasis and click modify. Font tab -> Notice font shown being
"Liberation Serif". However it simply inherits the PS font (as expected from
design point of view) However the dialog is showing something else.. so in that
way unexpected. As styles already being complex by itself, those flaws are
pretty annoying. I would expect it showing 'inherited' instead of any font (as
there can be a multitude of different fonts where they style can be applied).
Same holds true for all other areas.. As Inherited probably to long, * symbol?)

Also it's possible to reset/remove CS style by Applying Default Character style
(which can't be modified)

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As with the issue with all styles and formatting you can't see what is
formatted using what. So if BOLD highlights in the formatting toolbar. It can
caused by PS, CS or DF. (Same for font, font size, font color, highlight color)

And you can't manage PS/CS styles at with the sidebar If style Inspector being
active. If people don't want to meddle with the formatting toolbar, I would
like the Inspector to be in the properties deck? So while editing you can see
at minimum how the formatting is build up?

The Style Inspector does improve things.. However it doesn't highlight all
area's with certain (and no way of doing that, I think). So double clicking DF
BOLD highlighting all area's with BOLD applied by DF. [Not sure if it would be
workable (if edit a certain place, all other stuff is hidden again. You could
consider pressing highlighting bucket.. to make it 'temporally permanent' for
clean up purposes.. but if some BOLD DF shouldn't be replaced, you can't remove
the highlighting.. as you introduced highlighting DF; which can't be removed
(except by CTRL+M). 

If the mock-up will become reality this might not be an issue. But not so sure
this will happen as initially advertised:
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2019/11/20191105_SI2.png

And showing DF simply won't work with the current Writer comment perf issues.
It simple can't handle massive amount of comments

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