[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 135895] Improve documentation about numbered lists without a list style (see comment 15)

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135895

--- Comment #29 from sdc.blanco at youmail.dk ---
(In reply to kitchm from comment #27)
> While there are times when a person may do it as you described, many people
> do not.
Precisely.  That is why I have asked how you have done it, so that I do not
have to keep guessing.  There multiple ways to use LO. The documentation seeks
only to document those ways, not to push users into a particular workflow.

The procedures I described in comment 26 were meant to reveal something about
the behavior of LO (and then to ask the design team for feedback about whether
it was intended). 

So let's look at your intended workflow....

> Where I want an outline or list, I start with
> selecting the outline or list first, and only then do I add text.  

For example, would this correspond to what you do? 

A.  Select Numbering First, Then add Entries

1.  On Formatting bar, use dropdown menu in "Toggle Numbered List" icon to
select 1),2),3) numbering scheme.

Actual and expected result:  1) appears in document

2.  Make an entry, then press Enter
3.  Repeat for second line
4.  Repeat for third line, but press Enter twice after third line.

Result:  There is a 4) after the first Enter, and then an empty paragraph after
the second Enter. 

5.  On Formatting bar, use dropdown menu in Toggle Numbered List to select
another numbering scheme  (e.g., 1.2.3.)

Result:  The empty paragraph changes to 1. 

6.  Make three entries, without pressing return after the third.
7.  On Formatting bar (or Bullets and Numbering bar), use dropdown menu to
change numbering scheme to Roman numerals.

Actual and expected result:  Numbering scheme on second list changes, but the
first list does not change.

In other words, I have tried to follow your way of doing things (or at least I
have guessed as closely as your description permits), but have not encountered
the initial problem that you described.

Now here is another way that (sort of) follows your (general procedure) but
does produce the problem you have indicated.


B.  Select Numbering First, Then add Entries

1. Format > Lists > Numbered List
2. Make three entries.
3. Then add a few blank lines after the Numbered List.
4. Format > Lists > Numbered List

Actual result:  4.  appears in document (with a few blank lines above it, and
the initial list with three entries, 1. 2. 3.).

5.  Continuing from the 4., make some more entries in this "second" list.
6.  (then I followed steps 4 to 6 in comment 0, namely, select the "list" below
the blank lines, used dropdown box in the Bullets and Formatting toolbar to
select a different outline type, and now both lists use the same numbering
scheme, which is the problem that you reported.

(You did not mention "Restart numbering" in your initial report, but, I suspect
it is involved in someway in your workflow, which is creating the problem that
you report. 

For example,  in version B, if we apply "Restart Numbering" after step 4 and
before starting step 5, then it looks like the "second list" is separate from
the first, but when you change the numbering scheme for the "second list", then
"first" list also changes.  Is that what you did?

If you have used yet another procedure to produce the problem that you
reported, then please describe it.  Thanks.

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