[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
michael.meeks at suse.com
Thu Apr 19 08:11:18 PDT 2012
+ David, Stephan, Thorsten, Andras, Markus, Caolan,
Bjoern, Norbert, Fridrich, Michael S, Eike, Kohei,
Tor, Petr, Kendy, Lionel, Lubos
* Completed Action Items
+ review and re-close 3.4.x MAB fixed in 3.5.x (Rainer)
+ Apple Developer Enrollment (Thorsten)
+ switch doc encryption default back for 3.5 (Thorsten)
+ add a bold heading to GSOC page: LibreOffice is easy & fun to hack (Cedric)
+ update new file license template to MPLv2 (Michael)
+ mail the mailing list wrt. GSOC filing urgency (Fridrich)
+ help Ellie get mingw build going (Tor)
+ get bytemark access to Caolan (Norbert)
+ turn exception checking on for gcc in debug builds (Lubos)
* Pending Action Items
+ [wedged on nbg admins] firewall issues for new linux tinderbox (Thorsten)
+ add encryption default UI option in 3.6 (Thorsten)
+ rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo & fix (Michael)
+ poke RedHat security guy wrt. keys (Caolan)
+ [pending] pull up misc. internal versions for 3.6 (Fridrich)
+ started with pixman, poked cairo
* Action Items review
* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 3.5.3 rc1 - tagged yesterday to get late fixes
+ builds for Linux+Mac, Win32 in progress
Mac-PPC slow as usual.
+ expected this evening / tomorrow morning
+ may be announced at the weekend.
+ new mirror synching improved / faster box.
+ final date for rc2 deadline mailed out on Monday
* GSOC update (Fridrich)
+ 10 slots, and one cross-project conflict
+ all-night de-duplication meeting fun.
* Hack-fest roundup / suggestions for the future (Thorsten)
+ summaries on the planet / Thorsten's blog
+ 90 commits from the hack-fest attendees
+ lots of new things started
+ do it again soon
+ nice to have more of a focus, and do more outreach
* Exporting redundant symbols for unit tests (Lubos)
+ change reverted re-shrinking symbol tables
+ slower, and 1Gb larger
+ expectation that build-system changes be announced (Moggi)
* rtl / css namespace issues (Lubos/Michael)
+ should we have general 'using' statements ?
+ rtl::OUString is a bit of a pain
+ would like to use the short name everywhere,
except for exported headers.
+ add a unit test for all exported headers.
+ not eager to see it
+ but happy enough to see it go in
+ using css:: namespace instead ?
+ what is this css:: not friendly for new newcomers (Tor)
+ lo:: [!] - annoyances with aliases ...
+ replace css:: with nothing - bad (Stephan)
+ help get ready for lo4
+ prefer to push back to LibO 3.6 and a bigger cleanup (Stephan)
AA: + get headers to allow rtl:: namespace omitted in soon (Lubos)
+ but not do the big seds yet
+ concern wrt. the KDE4 experience & big bang changes (Lubos)
+ ie. fixing API changes now incrementally is a win
+ doing it sooner, not later is good of course (Stephan)
+ LibO 4.0
+ planned to be incrementally developed / migrated anyway
+ postpone until license change done (Bjoern)
+ concerns about breaking all extensions at once (Norbert)
+ better to do incremental improvement ?
+ how much will we get done for this anyway ?
+ consider longer support cycle for LibO 3.6.x etc.
+ discuss late.
* tinderboxen / status (Norbert)
+ bytemark machine #1
+ Fridrich is setting up the fast win32 machine,
aim to get v. fast debugging snapshots
+ bytemark machine #2
+ working on *BSD in virtualbox with little
joy help appreciated (Norbert)
+ need 3x BSD virtual-boxes (ideally)
+ Debian fixing bash-isms left & right due to dash (Lionel)
* misc. font bits
+ Google ChromeOS fonts
+ based on a renamed Liberation + added some additional glyphs
AA: + investigate (Caolan)
+ Ariel Narrow replacement / query
AA: + do we ship Liberation Narrow (Bjoern)
* QA update (Bjoern/Petr)
+ Rainer sends regrets
+ created bibisect screencast to help QA guys.
+ trained people in how to do it at hack-fest
+ now no need for 'EasyHack' prefix for bug subjects in bugzilla anymore
+ MAB re-evaluation is useful but can create more work than fixing the bugs
+ best to focus on NEEDINFO
+ situation calmed down again
+ what is MAB for ? is it needed at all ? can we use severities ?
+ severities/priorities - user tweakable, and thus not useful.
+ would a bugzilla privilege setting for those help ?
+ discussed at hack-fest, no much better solution available.
+ decision: stick with status-quo for now MAB works quite well.
+ could we sort by # of CC's - a better metric perhaps.
* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ MAB review dropped 2 bugs
+ 68 open (of 199) older 74/201 73/193 66/183 58/168 57/157 58/153 52/145 49/140
34% 37% 38% 36% 35% 36% 37% 36% 35%
* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 150(+2) bugs open of 485(+10) total
* Component count net *
+ Writer - 54 (+0)
+ Presentation - 23 (+1)
+ LibreOffice - 18 (+1)
+ Writer / RTF - 13 (+1)
+ Drawing - 9 (+0)
+ Database - 8 (+0)
+ Spreadsheet - 7 (+1)
+ Basic - 2 (-1)
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