[Libreoffice-qa] Unity Integration issues?

[Robinson Tryon]

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen
<bjoern.michaelsen at canonical.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 09:40:50AM +0000, Michael Meeks wrote:
>> > - Is there currently a source for builds with Unity menu integration?
>
> Yes, Ubuntu Raring has the build with the upstreamed Unity integration.

That's unreleased, AFAIK, so less useful for us to advertise to end users.

> Packages on Ubuntu 12.10 already had the Unity integration vendor patched in.
>

I don't have a 12.10 system to test this, but I do have a user on the
Ask site who I will ask to confirm. Here's what I'm going to tell him
for repro steps (please correct/confirm):

1. apt-get update; apt-get install libreoffice
2. At this point, he should have 3.6.(?) installed, with Unity menu support.

> Note that it makes no sense to backport the Unity integration to Ubuntu 12.04
> LTS as the Unity side of things isnt ready for it yet there.

As Ubuntu 12.04 is still a supported version of Ubuntu, perhaps I
should update the LO Release Notes for 4.0 with something like:

Unity integration is available via the official Ubuntu repositories.
Only the following Ubuntu/LibreOffice combinations are currently
supported:
 - Ubuntu 12.10, LO 3.6
 - Ubuntu 13.04, LO 4.0

Do you see any issue with that going into the 4.0 Release Notes?

>>       Sure - so downloading a PPA from Ubuntu should do it nicely. I believe
>> the same code also shipped with the last Ubuntu release as a back-port
>> (though I'm no expert there.
>
> Yes: Unity integration has been backported to LibreOffice 3.6 on Ubuntu 12.10.

great.

>> > - Did we miss something in testing the final rc 3? (and how can we
>> > prevent this type of issue next time?)
>
> No, its in the source and depends not only on things on the LibreOffice side,
> but also on a rather modern Unity version. As such, it makes currently little
> sense to enable it outside of distribution builds, which have a clear view of
> the state of the rest of the system dependencywise.

It sounds like maybe we're on two different wavelengths here. I'm not
asking about where this feature is implemented in the source. I'm not
asking technical questions. I'm asking about a discrepancy between the
official feature list that we put on the LibreOffice website and the
reality of the builds that we offer users to install.

To be frank, I'm a little frustrated right now that I've spent a
couple of hours triaging and dealing with this issue and trying to
help out Ubuntu users on the LO Ask site, only to discover that it was
clear to the Ubuntu devs all along that this feature would not work on
Ubuntu 12.04 at all and would only work on Ubuntu 12.10 + LO 3.6 via
Ubuntu's repositories.

- Where should the users have ascertained this information?

- Where should LO volunteers such as myself have ascertained this information?

- Are there any docs on this matter?

Had there been more extensive documentation linked from the Release
Notes from the day we shipped 4.0, it would have taken me only a few
minutes to field this user's questions. Perhaps we can figure out a
way to make sure that for future releases, features listed on our
Release Notes pages have some minimum level of documentation before we
ship any product.

Alternatively, I'd be happy to direct questions regarding a particular
feature to the developer of said feature, if that would be more
amenable.


Cheers,
--R