[Libreoffice-qa] (old) minutes of ESC call... (2017-07-20)

Jan Holesovsky kendy at collabora.com
Thu Jul 27 12:19:20 UTC 2017


I've heard on the IRC that the minutes from 2017-07-20 were not sent to
the ML; here they are:

* Present:
    + Lionel, Caolan, Heiko, Miklos, Olivier, Xisco, Michael M, Kendy,
      Armin, Jan-Marek, Bubli, Christian, Michael S, Thorsten, Theodore

* Volunteers to use the public numbers:
    + Cloph, Bubli

* Completed Action Items:
    + add wiki page with plan for live-screenshots (Olivier)
        [ https://wiki.docume ntfoundation.org/Development/ScreenshotsAtInstall
          summary of the issue here, needs a plan here.
          Had a brief call with Armin (Bubli)
             + some 2-3 days to get flicker-free screenshot experience
             + altogether some 2-3 weeks of work for a UNO service
               dlg id → screenshot.
AI:       work out what a good idea is here (Kendy, Thorsten)
             + ideal not to create these not at install-time,
               but when the user needs the screenshot.
             + easy to do inside the application; but not in the browser
               the user can navigate to anything.
          Buggy graphics card (Lionel)
             + if display not what it should be, help would also be bad.
          Trying to solve future problems (Thorsten)
             + could we do it iteratively, a few screenshots
               but not overbearing size of them
             + if we multiply screenshots * 70 languages (Olivier)
             + requirement of tender to add 5 screenshots (Bubli)
                 + can be done by the community, ongoing work (Olivier)
             + not convinced of the immediate need for lots of technical work here 
               until we have more screenshots (Thorsten) ]

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
    + 5.4.0 final - RC3
      + tagging this week – later today.
      + 9 patches waiting in gerrit to be reviewed
      + after call start prepping translations &
        then do the tag 10pm Berlin time.
      + last minute issues:
        + have a text rendering fix for 5.4.0 RC3 …
        + no text displayed at all in Virtual Machines ? (Michael S)
           + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/40211/ from Tomaz to fix.
           + can’t reproduce the problem (Christian)
           + input from Michaael S much appreciated.
        + can we delay until tomorrow ?
      + feature pages: please update:
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.4
      + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+branch:libreoffice-5-4-0 
    + 5.3.5 RC2
      + next week, nothing special here
    + Android & iOS Remote
    + online

* Tender oversight (Florian)
    + request for engineers to help review TDF tenders &
      assess results
    + must not be affiliated with a tendering company etc.
    + please contact Florian – hopefully he’s here next time.
    + ideally we have a list of tenders to help out with there (Thorsten)
       + mostly C++ bits, one or two web ones.
       + https://blog.documentfoundation.org/b-log/category/tenders/ (superset)
       + propose re-visit next week.

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + finished help on line (for master 6.0)
         + handover to designers to make it pretty …
             + Beatrice + Buovjaga are working on this (Bubli)
         + blog post about it:
             + https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2017/07/19/taming-libreoffice-help-system/
         + depends on https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/39264/ to go master
             + could we do a re-direct on the web-server instead ? (Christian)
                 + but all traffic will go to the new website (Olivier)
                   + but don’t have 5.3 just master (Olivier)
                 + version is in the URL – so can do it (Kendy)
                   + but ok with the gerrit patch for 6.0
     + fixed in help content (typos and correction from translators)
     + Resumed teamwork for editing Getting started Guide for release 6.0

* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        258(258) (topicUI) bugs open, 473(473) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week   1 month    3 months   12 months  
             added      1(-1)     9(-3)     36(-2)     403(-3) 
         commented     23(1)    131(-20)   529(-13)   3325(1)  
           removed      0(0)      2(-1)      6(0)       42(-1) 
          resolved      5(5)     12(0)      38(1)      248(4)  
    + top 10 contributors:
          Thomas Lendo made 157 changes in 1 month, and 384 changes in 1 year
          Philips, Yousuf made 75 changes in 1 month, and 1524 changes in 1 year
          Tietze, Heiko made 45 changes in 1 month, and 1510 changes in 1 year
          Faulí Tarazona, Xisco made 37 changes in 1 month, and 448 changes in 1 year
          Henschel, Regina made 14 changes in 1 month, and 137 changes in 1 year
          Foote, V Stuart made 13 changes in 1 month, and 571 changes in 1 year
          Buovjaga made 12 changes in 1 month, and 360 changes in 1 year
          Zolnai, Tamás made 9 changes in 1 month, and 28 changes in 1 year
          Timur made 8 changes in 1 month, and 66 changes in 1 year
          Pinto, Marco A.G. made 6 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 year
    + Ticket count should be lower.
    + Mail from Roberto Andres, student at the university of Madrid 
      sent to various people separately: I replied with a reference to our 
      landing page at the wiki and many other links and tips
        + forwarded from lots of different people; work for this thesis
        + has been take care of by Heiko.

    + Complaints on Telegram about line spacing
        + 5.3.4 breaking +400 documents
        + http://imgur.com/a/W48uX
        + related to Khaled’s work
          https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105860
        + report to TDF bugzilla recommended (Miklos)
            + already have reports for this sort of thing (Xisco)
        + previous decision was to keep Khaled’s patch
            + since it gets more consistent cross platform.
        + could add a compatibility setting in writer (Michael S)
            + pass it into VCL & somehow adapt it – as before, but …
              that requires someone to do it – and someon with a Mac
               + enough open Mac bugs currently (Michael M)
            + guy on Windows 7 & Kubuntu are his platforms (Heiko)
AI:     + build a write-up of the differences cross-platform (Xisco)
AI:     + get access for Xisco for the TDF macs or buy a Mac for Xisco (Christian)

    + Messed up with the splash screen size for 6.0 ; will fix-up next week

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
    + 25(+23) import failure, 578(+572) export failures
      + numbers gone extremely high – mostly in PPT export
      + trying to reproduce – not showing anything …
      + could it be scheduler changes having issues with the harness ?
      + Stephan pushed a fix related to scheduler & re-started
        + currently a high number related to the scheduler.
        + if reproducible can look (Jmux)
           + there is a script (Caolan)
           + if we shrink the pool to 50-60 docs its fine.
              + otherwise test-case – is: wait for an hour + half.
      + is it possible to re-direct stderr (Michael S)
        + look for assertion failure strings, to figure out why it is crashing ?
        + see at least two of these in unit tests
        + currently built without debugging (Caolan)
           + can try turning on if it fails again.
    + oss-fuzz: 31 fuzzers active.
      + temp breakage after emf+ changes, fixed now
    + coverity: 16(-5)
      + down slightly

* Hackfests & Events (Bjoern)
    + next venues / suggestions 
    + Akademy: 22nd-27th July (Thorsten)
	+ Xisco, Gabriele, Jeff, Shinnok and Franklin attending.
         + We’ll run a booth over the weekend
    + GUADEC: 28th July - 2nd Aug (Michael)

* Call for Papers for the LibreOffice conference
    + deadline August 15th.
    + http://conference.libreoffice.org/2017/call-for-papers-3/

* mentoring/easyhack update (Shinnok)
          committer...   1 week     1 month    3 months     12 months    
                  open       0(0)       0(0)      115(-1)       124(0)   
               reviews       0(0)       0(0)     2365(-295)   14507(-383)
                merged       0(0)       0(0)     1167(-163)    8755(-145)
             abandoned       0(0)       0(0)       62(-4)       517(-8)  
           own commits     186(169)   263(151)   2755(-101)   15291(-55) 
        review commits      23(19)     30(19)     534(-30)     3063(-38) 
        contributor...   1 week   1 month   3 months     12 months    
                  open      0(0)     0(0)       56(0)         59(0)   
               reviews      0(0)     0(0)     2415(-317)   16715(-300)
                merged      0(0)     0(0)      160(-30)      992(-20) 
             abandoned      0(0)     0(0)       18(-4)       210(-2)  
           own commits     14(10)   20(12)     218(-19)      829(-16) 
        review commits      0(0)     0(0)        0(0)          0(0)   
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 24(24)   needsUXEval 0(0)   cleanup_comments 187(187)   
       total 233(233)   assigned 16(16)   open 190(190)   
    + top 5 contributors:
          Dewan Aditya made 6 patches in 1 month, and 31 patches in 1 year
          Carl, Jens made 4 patches in 1 month, and 74 patches in 1 year
          Prajapati Gautam made 3 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
          Dennis Francis made 1 patches in 1 month, and 1 patches in 1 year
          Johnny_M made 1 patches in 1 month, and 32 patches in 1 year
    + top 5 reviewers:
           made 0 review comments in 1 month, and 0 in 1 year
           made 0 review comments in 1 month, and 0 in 1 year
          Jonatham E. Snow made 0 review comments in 1 month, and 0 in 1 year
          Frank Fuchs made 0 review comments in 1 month, and 0 in 1 year
          Montane, Joan made 0 review comments in 1 month, and 0 in 1 year
    + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
          Ivan Safonov insafonov at gmail.com 
          Paul Trojahn paul.trojahn at gmail.com 
          Dennis Francis dennis.francis at collabora.co.uk 
          Tamas Bunth tamas.bunth at collabora.co.uk 

    + trying to find an Easy Hack to go through the flow
       + have a couple of potential ones
    + found some Mac build issues vs. master
       + check tinderbox for that hash ? (Michael)
    + leaving to travel to aKademy ~now.
    + SSRLabs Interns (Michael)
       + two ~arrived so far.
       + hard to spot their E-mails (Shinnok)
          + shouldn’t special case them anyway (Michael)

* GSoC update (Thorsten / Markus / JanI)
    + Second evaluation next week
    + timeline:
         + July 24 - second evaluation
         + August 21- 29: pens down, wrap up
         + August 29 - September 5: final evaluations of students
         + September 6: passing projects announced

* crash reporter news (Xisco)
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/?days=128 
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.3.2
        + 2222 (last 7 days)
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.4.2
        + 2789 (last 7 days)
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.4.0.2
        + 14 (last 7 days)
    + Open bugs with a signature : 35 (+3)
	 + http://bit.ly/2qZIC1H

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + sleeping for 10 weeks

* Jenkins / CI update (Christian)
    + OSX gerrit verification won’t be back before September, 6th
    + Regular connection problems between buildbots and gerrit
    from:Thu Jul 13 16:27:07 2017
    master linux rel  jobs: 188 ok: 183 ko:   5 fail ratio:  2.66 % break:   3 broken duration: 0.57%
    master linux dbg  jobs: 151 ok: 134 ko:  14 fail ratio:  9.27 % break:   6 broken duration: 9.09%
    master mac rel    jobs: 178 ok: 152 ko:  26 fail ratio: 14.61 % break:   9 broken duration:10.79%
    master mac dbg    jobs: 187 ok: 159 ko:  27 fail ratio: 14.44 % break:   9 broken duration: 7.99%
    master win rel    jobs: 107 ok:  92 ko:  15 fail ratio: 14.02 % break:   8 broken duration: 7.82%
    master win dbg    jobs: 106 ok:  84 ko:  22 fail ratio: 20.75 % break:  12 broken duration:14.73%
    master win64 dbg  jobs: 106 ok:  89 ko:  17 fail ratio: 16.04 % break:   9 broken duration:14.91%
    lo-5.3 mac        jobs:  11 ok:  11 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    lo-5.4 mac        jobs:   0 ok:   0 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    branch gerrit all jobs:   0 ok:   0 ko:   0 fail ratio: 0.00%
    master gerrit lin jobs: 465 ok: 410 ko:  54 fail ratio:11.61%
    master gerrit plg jobs: 465 ok: 331 ko: 133 fail ratio:28.60%
    master gerrit win jobs: 461 ok: 336 ko: 122 fail ratio:26.46%
    master gerrit mac jobs:   0 ok:   0 ko:   0 fail ratio: 0.00%
    master gerrit all jobs: 466 ok: 268 ko: 197 fail ratio:42.27%

* l10n (Christian)
    + change of gettext bits
    + pootle developers asked to hold off
    + may have found a way not to loose string history in pootle itself
    + did we get a timeline ? (Caolan)
       + sometime in next 3-4 weeks (Christian)
    + not holding up doing the change in master (Christian)
       + so – go ahead with changes ? (Caolan)
          + feel free to go ahead now (Christian)

* QA update (Xisco)

    + UNCONFIRMED: 438 (+5)
        + enhancements: 59  (-1)
        + needsUXEval: 5 (+0)
        + haveBackTrace: 10 (+2)
        + needsDevAdvice: 32 (-1)
        + documentation:  2 (+0)
	  + Android: 18
             + increasing number of Android issues – mostly enhancement bits.
    + Most Pressing Bugs: http://tdf.io/mostressingbugs
        + New:
          + Libreoffice crashes by deleting the internal variables, writer
		    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109197
		    + 5.4.0.1
		    + Regression from a706bb06d5326e7a997dd1d71f3f947bd0ad28e6 
                + Noel to have a look.

	  + Older:
          + CALC - crashes on COPYing 3+ whole rows to clipboard with OpenGL
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108299
                + crash-reporter shows similar issues:
                  Windows - dumping clipboard to OS before final exit.
                + shutdown / exit ordering nightmare wrt. Clipboard
                + apparently exacerbated by OpenGL

          + CRASH - SEGFAULT 11 attempting to open any document on Mac / master
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108793 
                + NEEDINFO → already fixed ?
                + Tamas Bund on it.

	  + Fixed:

          + Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 5.3.2,
            older AMD and Intel GPUs
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166
                + zero sized rectangles poisons some GDI backends.
                + any follow-on issues need separating into a shorter bug.
                + fixed – thanks to Tomaz Vajngerl

          + CRASH: Crash after undo operation (BigPtrArray::Index2Block(...
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107975
                + 2903d85d6197829633d7f96c95cd55821c2c20ff reverted.
                + Thanks to Michael S.

          + Crash in: SfxItemPool::IsInRange(unsigned short)
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108881
		    + Thanks to Dennis Francis

* QA stats
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +124  +0 (-114) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       Xisco Faulí             28
       Timur                   10
       Eike Rathke             8
       Heiko Tietze            4
       Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB)  4
       Yousuf Philips (jay)    4
       Adolfo Jayme            3
       Tamás Zolnai            3
       Dennis Francis          3
       Caolán McNamara         3
       Mike Kaganski           3
       V Stuart Foote          3
       m.a.riosv               2
       Gabor Kelemen           2
       Alex Thurgood           2

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       Marco A.G.Pinto         7
       Gabor Kelemen           7
       Thomas Lendo            6
       Telesto                 4
       krishna [:kr1shna]      3
       Timur                   3
       Szymon Kłos             2
       Kenneth Hanson          2
       bunkem                  2
       Robert Orzanna          2
       Michael Meeks           1
       Elmar                   1
       tommy27                 1
       Regina Henschel         1
       Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB)  1

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       Marco A.G.Pinto         7
       Gabor Kelemen           7
       Thomas Lendo            6
       Telesto                 4
       krishna [:kr1shna]      3
       Timur                   3
       Szymon Kłos             2
       Kenneth Hanson          2
       bunkem                  2
       Robert Orzanna          2
       Michael Meeks           1
       Elmar                   1
       tommy27                 1
       Regina Henschel         1
       Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB)  1


* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
   + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
     5.3 : 3/42 -     7 %  (-2)
     5.2 : 2/37 -     5 %  (+0)
     5.1 : 1/34 -     2 %  (+0)
     5.0 : 2/60 -     3 %  (+0)
     4.4 : 4/76 -     5 %  (+0)
     4.3 : 6/73 -     8 %  (+0)
     4.2 : 6/134 -    4 %  (+0)
     4.1 : 4/82 -     4 %  (+0)
     4.0 : 5/82 -     6 %  (+0)
     old : 28/256 -   10 %  (+0)


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   + 378/1488 385/1485 376/1471 368/1458 372/1448 383/1441 386/1435 

     done by:
        Faulí Tarazona, Xisco   4
        Budea, Áron             1
 

* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   + 468/2075 475/2071 466/2056 457/2042 463/2032 470/2018 473/2008 

     done by:
        Faulí Tarazona, Xisco   5
        Budea, Áron             2


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 861(+1) bugs open of 6155(+15) total 14(+1) high prio.

     done by:
        Faulí Tarazona, Xisco   7
        Alex Thurgood           3
        Timur                   2
        tommy27                 2
        Budea, Áron             2
        MM                      1
        Alex ARNAUD             1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     LibreOffice   - 4(+0)
     Writer        - 3(+0)
     Calc          - 3(+1)
     Impress       - 2(+0)
     graphics stack - 1(+0)
     Extensions    - 1(+0)

   by OS:
     Linux         - 0(+0)
     Windows       - 2(+1)
     All           - 8(+0)
     Mac OS X      - 4(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 141(+0)
     Calc                     - 137(-1)
     Impress                  - 80(+0)
     Writer: docx filter      - 72(-1)
     LibreOffice              - 69(+1)
     UI                       - 46(-1)
     Writer: doc filter       - 42(-1)
     graphics stack           - 40(+0)
     Draw                     - 35(+0)
     Base                     - 34(+2)
     Writer: perf             - 32(-1)
     Writer: other filter     - 31(+0)
     Borders                  - 30(+0)
     Chart                    - 24(+1)
     filters and storage      - 22(+0)
     Crashes                  - 20(+2)
     Printing and PDF export  - 17(+0)
     BASIC                    - 14(+1)
     Extensions               - 4(+0)
     Installation             - 3(+0)
     framework                - 3(+1)
     Linguistic               - 2(+0)





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