ESC meeting minutes: 2024-02-15

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Feb 15 15:45:35 UTC 2024


* Present:
     + Olivier, Caolan, Cloph, Heiko, Hossein, Ilmari, Michael W, Regina, Stephan, Xisco, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.6: 7.6.5 RC2 this week; planning to tag later today
       + pending changes: <https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/branch:libreoffice-7-6-5+status:open>
     + 24.2.1: RC2 in 1 week

* Atticize gnu-make-lo.git (Thorsten)
   + see <https://git.libreoffice.org/gnu-make-lo>
   + suggest to retire this (Michael S)
     + probably nobody should use this these days
   + any impact on the way people build LO? (Hossein)
     + would only impact building LO 4.x or older (Michael S)
     + no impact otherwise
   + flag it as read-only + add description (Cloph)
   => no objections
AI: Thorsten to take this further

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontent2
        + Housekeeping internal links  (D. Maddern)
        + ScriptForge Help (A. Romedenne)
        + typos... (ohallot)
     + Guides
        + Published Getting Started Guide 7.6 (ohallot)
        + Published Writer Guide 24 (Jean Weber)
        + Guides pet bugs (aka Guides MAB)
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149380
             (Restart numbering menu command)
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159366
             (List styles regression)
          + these affect all Writer documents, but gets worse with master documents

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         282(282) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created      9(1)    22(7)      42(5)     249(4)
          commented     20(8)    57(13)    159(4)     936(-2)
           resolved      3(1)     5(2)      15(2)     124(-1)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 22 changes in 1 month, and 44 changes in 1 year
           Alain Romedenne made 10 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 10 changes in 1 month, and 274 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 9 changes in 1 month, and 345 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 8 changes in 1 month, and 59 changes in 1 year
           Dan Dascalescu made 7 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 6 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 5 changes in 1 month, and 96 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 5 changes in 1 month, and 85 changes in 1 year
           Juan José González made 4 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         247(247) (topicUI) bugs open, 37(37) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      2(0)       5(0)      9(-3)      21(-4)
          commented     26(-51)   175(-8)   518(-16)   2046(-73)
            removed      0(0)       0(0)      2(0)       13(0)
           resolved      4(-11)    37(2)     77(0)      319(-7)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 118 changes in 1 month, and 1236 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 49 changes in 1 month, and 613 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 42 changes in 1 month, and 261 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 18 changes in 1 month, and 187 changes in 1 year
           Rafael Lima made 16 changes in 1 month, and 105 changes in 1 year
           Ady made 14 changes in 1 month, and 120 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 11 changes in 1 month, and 48 changes in 1 year
           Justin Luth made 10 changes in 1 month, and 124 changes in 1 year
           Németh, László made 8 changes in 1 month, and 22 changes in 1 year
           Akshay Warrier made 7 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 159724] The "No Character Style" list entry should always be offered
            in the SB "Character Styles" content panel, even if only the "Applied
            Styles" is the selected UI mode
     + [Bug 159717] Lock file warning dialog promotes data disaster
     + [Bug 159711] The minimum Navigator sidebar width should be lower
     + [Bug 141776] Application shortcuts not working in Start Center after closing
            document (see comment 4)
     + [Bug 159652] Finding a way to join a suffix to the word immediately before it,
            using autocorrect function
  -> + [Bug 159654] Enhancement Feature Request - Center Across Selection
       + missing ODF feature, round-trip issue with OOXML
       + Excel has this, obviously we drop it on roundtrip
       + believe it's a bad feature (Heiko)

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 5(-7) import failure, 3(+1) export failures
       - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
       - this is really 2 old distinct writer asserts and a batch of relatively
         new (threading-related?) Buffered2DDecomposition issues
     + 0 coverity issues
     + 3 Google / ossfuzz
       - no crashes, 3 timeouts

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
     + 7.6.3.2    7500(+463)
     + 7.6.4.1    27646(+3372)
     + 24.2.0.3    3115(+1942)


     - Regressions in 24.2.0:

     - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/ScVbaEventsHelper::notifyEvent(com::sun::star::document::EventObject%20const%20&)

     - Already fixed. Thanks to Julien

     - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/Dialog::ImplStartExecute()

     - Already fixed. Thanks to Patrick

     - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/WhichRangesContainer::getOffsetFromWhich(unsigned%20short)

       - Calc


     - JJ has made some improvements to the website


* Mentoring (Hossein)
   + Reviewed submissions from newcomers on Gerrit
   + Build problem with latest Cygwin
     + Tested with different build parameters
     + Works with 1 paralell process
     + Had issues like that before
     + Ilmari also mailed the cygwin list
       + the discussion stalled there at the moment
       + Hossein tries to create a self-contained reproducer, no success so far
   + Call with 3 volunteer for start porting, 1 for finalizing his submission
     + SDK examples porting, from java to python
     + also java test porting to python or c++

           committer...   1 week    1 month     3 months     12 months
                   open      83(-5)    138(-9)     141(-8)       141(-8)
                reviews     414(6)    1494(-86)   3534(30)     11954(-8)
                 merged     261(25)   1144(-19)   3195(-42)    12463(63)
              abandoned      12(0)      52(0)      216(1)        654(5)
            own commits     149(10)    720(-35)   2297(-111)    9652(-22)
         review commits      58(19)    271(-29)    810(-2)      3061(9)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month      3 months     12 months
                   open      40(-61)    267(-15)     274(-9)       275(-9)
                reviews     802(-16)   2864(-148)   7752(-166)   30380(-48)
                 merged      22(5)       89(-1)      333(-5)      2092(-61)
              abandoned       4(-13)     39(-13)     148(2)        531(-13)
            own commits      26(8)      122(0)       293(20)      1030(13)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)         0(0)          0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 325(325)
        total 411(411)   assigned 23(23)   open 355(355)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Dione Maddern made 14 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year
           Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 11 patches in 1 month, and 83 patches in 1 year
           Luv Sharma made 6 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
           Eli Schwartz made 5 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Akshay Warrier made 5 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Kira Tubo made 4 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
           Gökay Şatır made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Weblate made 3 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
           Kurt Nordback made 3 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Méven Car made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Caolán McNamara made 190 review comments in 1 month, and 1134 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 122 review comments in 1 month, and 976 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 118 review comments in 1 month, and 1054 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 788 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 452 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 606 in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 582 in 1 year
           Hossein made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 294 in 1 year
           Taichi Haradaguchi made 54 review comments in 1 month, and 106 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 52 review comments in 1 month, and 354 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         SbRtl_IsNumeric returns false when given >1 parameter ( Ernesto Rendon )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/157475
         CppunitTest_desktop_lib: adjust asserts so this works again ( Caolán McNamara )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/159909
         tdf#112437 add a go to page spin button UNO control ( Jim Raykowski )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/160191
         tdf#157794 refactor Complex to use std::complex where possible ( Daniel Thomas )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/160394
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Hubert Figuière (Collabora)
           Devansh Varshney
           Steven Casey

* Outreachy (Ilmari)
   + work is ongoing & is on track.
   + next week is the last one for coding.
   + find in the sidebar for Writer -- patch is pending review
   + several patches for the qt welding project
     + Michael W also helped with that
     + working on .ui parsing for qt

* GSoC (Ilmari)
     + More ideas welcome https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
       + still looking for more "small" project ideas: 175 hours (Ilmari)
     + next step: wait for the Google decision, in about 1 week

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
   + resting since: 17 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 167 ok: 161 ko:   1 fail ratio: 0.60% mean_ok:   9 ( 12) median_ok:   6 (  8)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 161 ok: 157 ko:   3 fail ratio: 1.86% mean_ok:   9 ( 12) median_ok:   6 (  7)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 167 ok: 161 ko:   1 fail ratio: 0.60% mean_ok:   9 ( 12) median_ok:   7 (  8)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 163 ok: 143 ko:  19 fail ratio: 11.66% mean_ok:   9 ( 13) median_ok:   6 (  7)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 345 ok: 251 ko:  87 fail ratio: 25.22% mean_ok:  40 ( 43) median_ok:  35 ( 41)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 443 ok: 319 ko: 109 fail ratio: 24.60% mean_ok:  17 ( 19) median_ok:  14 ( 15)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 331 ok: 297 ko:  24 fail ratio: 7.25% mean_ok:  50 ( 50) median_ok:  48 ( 48)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 342 ok: 257 ko:  69 fail ratio: 20.18% mean_ok:  60 ( 91) median_ok:  49 ( 50)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 468 ok: 192 ko: 248 fail ratio: 52.99% mean_ok: 108 (109) median_ok:  77 ( 79)
gerrit_master              jobs:  50 ok:  17 ko:  29 fail ratio: 58.00% mean_ok:  65 ( 65) median_ok:  58 ( 58)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 418 ok: 175 ko: 219 fail ratio: 52.39% mean_ok: 111 (112) median_ok:  80 ( 80)
    + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_240215.html
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_framework_dispatch                gerrit_windows
       3 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter2                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 JunitTest_sw_complex                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 CppunitTest_vcl_pdfexport                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       5 CppunitTest_sd_uimpress                gerrit_mac
       5 CppunitTest_sw_layoutwriter2                gerrit_windows
       7 CppunitTest_sw_a11y                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      10 CppunitTest_sw_a11y                gerrit_windows
      11 CppunitTest_test_a11y                gerrit_windows
      21 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
      21 UITest_writer_tests7                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      + have a new problematic test: UITest_writer_tests7
        + patch in gerrit to move some tests around (Xisco)
          + it may or may not help
      + bots: Windows problem was specific with a single bot
        + the reason is not clear, possibly a reboot will help
      + 1 linux builder also had a problem: gcc build failed due to a dirty repo checkout
        + fixed
      + CppunitTest_sw_a11y failure (Xisco)
        + 2 tests were problematic only on Windows, only on the branch, disabled them

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
     + A11y update (Michael W)
       + crash fixes + small code cleanups
       * currently evaluating how to make Accerciser work better on Wayland + with gtk4
         apps
     + tdf#70039 WIP convert 3D effects to extrusion (Regina)
       https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/162594
       + got some feedback, thanks
       + working on a test
         + noticed problems in the meantime
     + tdf#159483 Calc HTML copy & paste improvements (Miklos)
       + mostly data-sheet-* attributes for better google sheets interop
       + https://listarchives.documentliberation.org/www/devel/msg00100.html has more details

* COOL Days 2024 (Miklos)
   + https://www.collaboraoffice.com/cool-days-2024/  8th -> 10th April
   + contributors can submit 5 mins talk proposals at https://eventyay.com/e/0512424d/cfs
   + LibreOffice Technology hackfest as part of it

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1127 (+24)
         + enhancements: 261  (+0)
         + needsUXEval: 5 (+2)
         + haveBackTrace: 9 (-1)
         + needsDevAdvice: 45 (+0)
         + documentation:  9 (+0)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  10 (+0)



     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:

     None

      Fixed:
         + CRASH: Changing to edit mode
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159707
             + already fixed, thanks to Julien


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + Excessive memory consumption in v24.2
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159529
             + Khaled Hosny?
             + would be ideal to run it through massif if possible (Caolan)
             + but then it's mac-specific (Xisco)

         + Assignment of Shortcuts for Find messed up in the German version
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159709

                 - Patch in gerrit: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/163441


* QA stats (Stéphane)
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +103  +40 (-101) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Heiko Tietze            9
        Telesto                 9
        Mike Kaganski           7
        Buovjaga                5
        QA Administrators       5
        Michael Weghorn         4
        V Stuart Foote          4
        ady                     4
        Julien Nabet            3
        Noel Grandin            3

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Telesto                 6
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 4
        Xisco Faulí             4
        Alain Romedenne         2
        David García            2
        Orwel                   2
        Pit Zaclade             2
        Rafael Lima             2
        lvm                     2
        Andy                    1

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Heiko Tietze            4
        Grandin, Noel           3
        Weghorn, Michael        3
        Xisco Fauli             3
        Kaganski, Mike          2
        Kelemen, Gabor          2
        Michael Stahl           2
        Nabet, Julien           2
                                1
        Ady                     1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Dieter                  11
        *UNKNOWN*               4
        Ady                     4
        Vernon, Stuart Foote    4
        Weghorn, Michael        4
        m.a.riosv               4
        Kaganski, Mike          3
        Xisco Fauli             3
        Heiko Tietze            2
        Kelemen, Gabor          2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Raal                   6
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         Kaganski, Mike         1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Raal                   6
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         Camaleón               1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1257(-8) bugs open of 13194(+12) total 22(-2) high prio.

      done by:
         Xisco Fauli            3
         m.a.riosv              2
         Telesto                2
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         Kaganski, Mike         1
         Camaleón               1
         Raal                   1
         Henschel, Regina       1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 14(-1)
      Calc          - 2(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 2(+0)
      Impress       - 1(+0)
      Printing and PDF export - 1(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)
      Formula Editor - 0(-1)

    by OS:
      All           - 16(-1)
      Linux         - 5(-1)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 1(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 455(+0)
      Calc                     - 231(-2)
      Impress                  - 130(+0)
      LibreOffice              - 54(-2)
      Crashes                  - 52(-2)
      Draw                     - 50(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 45(+1)
      Base                     - 38(+0)
      UI                       - 36(+0)
      Borders                  - 35(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 34(-1)
      Writer: other filter     - 31(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 26(+0)
      Chart                    - 23(+0)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      filters and storage      - 21(+0)
      BASIC                    - 19(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 16(+0)
      graphics stack           - 11(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 7(-1)
      framework                - 3(-1)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      sdk                      - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)


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