<div dir="ltr"> <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Robert Großkopf <<a href="mailto:robert@familiegrosskopf.de" target="_blank">robert@familiegrosskopf.de</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Mas, <div class="im">>> > > I viewed your attachment again . The screen shot was presented in > English and if you notice under the general tab. The list goes from > A-Z -- alignment being the first and background color being next. > This is called alphabetical order from A-Z > > I checked under releases 4.1.03 and 4.1.04 Window and Linux. They are > setup the same way. > > > see attached from my version , We can possibly file this under a feature > request instead of a bug </div>Your attachment doesn't show the whole field-properties of a form in base I presented. I'm not interested into a long discussion and writing down all the properties here. But I have written the part you have attached: 1 Alignment 2 Background color 3 Border 4 Border color 5 Default text 6 Password character 7 Visible 8 Enabled 9 Font 10 Height 11 Help Text 12 Hide selection 13 Label Field 14 Text lines end with 15 Max. text length That is the order of your screenshot. I put it into Calc and let it order in alphabethical form: 1 Alignment 2 Background color 3 Border 4 Border color 5 Default text 8 Enabled 9 Font 10 Height 11 Help Text 12 Hide selection 13 Label Field 15 Max. text length 6 Password character 14 Text lines end with 7 Visible That is the alphabethical order of Calc. The first five fields are ordered alphabethical. So please don't close a bug with the argument the order is alphabetical, if it isn't. Say it is chaotically and I love chaotically LO - and if many people of this list will aggree it might be OK (for alle the people, who loves chaos, not for people, who will work with software). Then I wouldn't open the bug again and will leave this projekt. Alphabetical order isn't an argument. The changing of the order by groups (Anchor together with Height and Width and Positionx and PositionY for example) to no order is a regression in usability. I think nobody has changed this behavior from LO 4.0 to LO 4.1 with this intention. There has been changed something at another point and nobody noticed, that this would change the usability of the editing of form-fields. <div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"> Robert </div></div></blockquote></div> <div>I will research this further and reply to the bug ticket. Thanks </div>-- -- Mas</div></div>