[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Hiding/Showing the page breaks in writer
olivier.noreply at gmail.com
Sat Sep 17 05:28:40 PDT 2011
Le 16/09/2011 22:40, Christoph Noack a écrit :
> Okay, let's address this step by step - I think everybody agrees that
> the visualization of page breaks is valuable. I, personally, also use
> the page break information quite heavily.
So am I.
> But, the blue (or whatever colored) line isn't self explaining - so the
> question is whether it helps (advanced users) or worries (less advanced
> users) if it is shown in the Writer WYSIWYG mode - it could even be a
> document border. That was our rationale to switch the visibility of this
> "line" with the non-printing characters, plus adding a "this is a page
> break icon" plus tooltip.
> So I currently see two alternatives trying to balance the needs of the
> variety of users ...
> Version 1: Back to a (tweaked) former behavior
> * non-printing characters off --> show the line (but: use a narrow
> dashed line to make it look like a markup, like the
> headers/footers indicator or the Notes connector lines)
> * non-printing characters on --> show the line and add the icon
> for "this is a page break" (which is currently implemented via
> text, as Cedric stated)
> Version 2: Make the border a formatting aid --> Same behavior as above,
> but make the the line a configurable formatting aid (Tools - Options -
> Writer - Formatting Aids). [BTW: I don't like to add more configuration
> options, but it would fit to the concept we have today...]
Imho, page/column breaks are text boundaries more than special
characters, so I think it should be visible as well as page/sections
boundaries, and that’s why I suggested the first solution. But it does
not really matter if it should be a full page/column line, a dashed line
or a shortened line (to fit more to WYSIWYG), or something else, as long
as this information is available WITHOUT displaying non-printable
characters. That was the main concern on the French ml.
Why? Simply because some of us just never display the non-printable
characters. So removing all hints of the presence of page/column breaks
without NP-chars is like removing them totally. Switching all the times
the displaying mode would be really unconvenient.
> @ Cedric, Olivier: Mmh, currently thinking if (after our changes) the
> former upper document border is still the right place to draw such a
> line, or whether the upper page border would fit even more ... Any
It could be small red arrow in the margin, or two slashes // at the
corner to suggest that the text flow has been cut.
On the French ml, we suggested to draw page/column breaks at the bottom
of pages/columns, but it is apparently technically difficult because
breaks are parameters of the next paragraph. So said Cédric.
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